ATM is FAR WORSE than that, but it helps sell stuff in New Zealand ;-) Arron Scott Not speaking for any company in particular -----Original Message----- From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley(a)automagic.org] Sent: Friday, 23 February 2001 3:49 a.m. To: Scott, Arron Cc: Dennis Su; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500 On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 02:17:09PM +1100, Scott, Arron wrote:
Now we just need a Telco or three in NZ to support ATM at STM-4 rates.
Is anybody really waiting for that? If you're shifting an STM-4s worth of data around, it's probably a stream of packets, and it's probably IP, and you probably want to use POS. You probably don't want the additional complexity, cost, operational overhead, cell tax and SAR latency that using ATM would involve. Also, ATM is the work of Satan, which should be mentioned, for the record. Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
ATM is FAR WORSE than that, but it helps sell stuff in New Zealand ;-)
But then one particular company that springs to mind won't sell anything but ATM to their customers, even though they are deploying POS and >OC3 circuits internally. Cheers. James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
I'd rather sell something that had a future, and not cripple networking in NZ any more than it already is. No matter how much easier it made the sale. Customers listen to what vendors have to say. Vendors should be telling them the truth, not just what they think will make the sale. Long live POS =) Dean Not speaking for, or about, any company in particular On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 02:01:55PM +1100, Scott, Arron wrote:
ATM is FAR WORSE than that, but it helps sell stuff in New Zealand ;-)
Arron Scott Not speaking for any company in particular
-----Original Message----- From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley(a)automagic.org] Sent: Friday, 23 February 2001 3:49 a.m. To: Scott, Arron Cc: Dennis Su; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 02:17:09PM +1100, Scott, Arron wrote:
Now we just need a Telco or three in NZ to support ATM at STM-4 rates.
Is anybody really waiting for that? If you're shifting an STM-4s worth of data around, it's probably a stream of packets, and it's probably IP, and you probably want to use POS. You probably don't want the additional complexity, cost, operational overhead, cell tax and SAR latency that using ATM would involve.
Also, ATM is the work of Satan, which should be mentioned, for the record.
Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
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This is possibly a bit off topic, in which case my humble apologies, but I have a Cisco 4500 running IOS 12.0.6. It works fine, except that I can't monitor traffic on sub interfaces. Has anyone on the list seen this, and is there an inexpensive workarround/solution (other then graphing off the other side of the link) Thanks, David Gottschalk Web InterNet ltd On Fri, 23 Feb 2001, Scott, Arron wrote:
ATM is FAR WORSE than that, but it helps sell stuff in New Zealand ;-)
Arron Scott Not speaking for any company in particular
-----Original Message----- From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley(a)automagic.org] Sent: Friday, 23 February 2001 3:49 a.m. To: Scott, Arron Cc: Dennis Su; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: ATM card in Cisco 4500
On Thu, Feb 22, 2001 at 02:17:09PM +1100, Scott, Arron wrote:
Now we just need a Telco or three in NZ to support ATM at STM-4 rates.
Is anybody really waiting for that? If you're shifting an STM-4s worth of data around, it's probably a stream of packets, and it's probably IP, and you probably want to use POS. You probably don't want the additional complexity, cost, operational overhead, cell tax and SAR latency that using ATM would involve.
Also, ATM is the work of Satan, which should be mentioned, for the record.
Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
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On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:16:46PM +1300, List Server Account wrote:
This is possibly a bit off topic, in which case my humble apologies, but I have a Cisco 4500 running IOS 12.0.6. It works fine, except that I can't monitor traffic on sub interfaces.
Not even using "show atm vc"?
Has anyone on the list seen this, and is there an inexpensive workarround/solution (other then graphing off the other side of the link)
Ask the University of Waikato for their OC3 product catalogue :) Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
I had the same problem with a couple of 7200's ( I gather you mean snmp ), as with most things Cisco a later IOS release fixed the problem. On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 10:16:46PM +1300, List Server Account wrote:
This is possibly a bit off topic, in which case my humble apologies, but I have a Cisco 4500 running IOS 12.0.6. It works fine, except that I can't monitor traffic on sub interfaces.
Not even using "show atm vc"?
Has anyone on the list seen this, and is there an inexpensive workarround/solution (other then graphing off the other side of the link)
Ask the University of Waikato for their OC3 product catalogue :) Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
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