Good call Steve and Thanks for you input. I'm going to try and nail Paul Vixie down a little more on what he's going to talk about. If anyone has anything inparticular in mind, then please mail this to me and I'll try and sway him. As for the other examples you mention, well they are an artifact of the 'Uniforum' part of the conference. I can't speak for or about any of their speakers. I only organised the speakers in the NZNOG stream. I've CC'd this message to the organiser of the Uniforum portion, so that he can give you some more information on these. Thanks Dean On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 12:53, Steve Winter wrote:

Dean,

Thanks for all the work that you and many others have put into making this conference 'happen' and reminding us to go and register...

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5) Here is the guilt trip... If you support NZNOG and this conference then there is a good chance that it will keep going in years to come. If no one turns up then there will never be one again. So even if this conference is not you IDEAL nznog conference - then please consider attending the parts that do interest you. That way there will be one in the future for you to have input into.

I thought since we only got notification about the conference late last week you may be reminding us because the website had been updated so that there was a little more 'content' in the schedule.

While for many people who read this list;

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Sat 13 Jul 08:45 ~ 16:00 (High-tech) Paul Vixie

Abstract

By the author of "BIND" himself!

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plus your comments today the name alone might be sufficient detail to want to sign up, for myself anyway, I'd be kinda interested in knowing what I was going to be paying $100+ to hear him talk about... :-)

And I think the same can be said for many of the sessions... a couple of other examples;

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Sat 13 Jul 08:45 ~ 11:00 (Medium-tech) --------------------------------------------

This probably simply illustrates that I have no idea of what's going on in the world, and should probably be unsubscribed from this list as a consequence, but..??..huh...???

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Sun 14 Jul 13:45 ~ 14:45 (Medium-tech) Brendan Murray, Otago University

Abstract

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Cool, so, who's Brendan, what does he do research into and...??....

I'm sure that for many of you this is going to be a nice chance to catch up with your mates at the expense of your employer, however for someone who's interested, and has received a reasonable amount of information from this list, but doesn't have an employer who's going to put even 2c towards my attending, I need a little bit more than what's there before deciding to fork out the approx. $600 and 2 days annual leave it's going to cost me to attend ex Wellington...

Cheers Steve

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I think they might be in the High Tech section. But just to be EXTRA helpful, I've attached a copy of the Speaker Bio's and Abstracts for all the NZNOG people. Excuse any formatting stuffups. It started life as a StarWriter Document but I can't post that due to the AUP =) So you get .txt Paul Vixie's is missing because we only confirmed him recently. Dean On Mon, 2002-06-17 at 13:45, Steve Winter wrote:

Dean,

Thanks for getting back to me on this...is there any way to 'pull out' just NZNOG items in the schedule...clicking in the NZNOG box at the top doesn't seem to do anything very much...perhaps the NZNOG sessions are just on specific days, or are they the 'high-tech' strand or..??

Thanks again Steve

In exchange for providing most of the top-end speakers, NZNOG is being offered a substantial discount off the normal registration charge, by being given first-shot at the cheapest discount rate. (There are legal limitations that prevent a more direct compensation being offered.) The first 50 registrations are being offered at a rate that is bearly above the marginal cost per attendee, for the benefit of those who have to pay their own way. On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Steve Winter wrote:

I thought since we only got notification about the conference late last week you may be reminding us because the website had been updated so that there was a little more 'content' in the schedule.

There has been some time pressure because we've needed to give final commitments to our speakers from outside Auckland, and the registrations will shortly be advertised outside NZNOG, so I suggest that you get in quickly -- or tell your employer the full-price rate.

Paul Vixie ... Brendan Murray ... I'd be kinda interested in knowing what I was going to be paying $100+ to hear him talk about... :-)

Some speakers have been confirmed only very recently and have yet to furnish full details of their sessions. I will give them a hurry-along and let you know when they do.

LUG #1

Sorry about those; I have several people who've offered sessions, and enough back-up speakers to make sure that they happen, but not enough detail to promise anything too specific right now. I'll go knock some heads together and get back to you.

I'm sure that for many of you this is going to be a nice chance to catch up with your mates at the expense of your employer,

Ouch! I'm the convenor, and I'm paying my own way! If I'm *lucky* my employer will give me paid leave. OK, so perhaps my fill-in intro for Brendan Murray was too chatty and informal, but it was just that -- a fill-in.

I need a little bit more than what's there before deciding to fork out the approx. $600 and 2 days annual leave it's going to cost me to attend

See above, I'm chasing up speakers for more details, and I'll let you know when they're available. I realise it sounds like a lot of money to an individual, however if you were to go to a training company, they would charge you at least that for one day, let alone three or four. I'd really like to see this happen again next year -- but bags someone else do the organising! And just a word of warning: remember that since half of the attendees are also speakers, the remainder have to pay double to cover whatever you figure the costs are. -Martin - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog