If someone could make some effort to get all the facilities people peer at in Auckland registered in peeringdb, this would also help! Last I looked sky was the only one in there, and I added mayoral. But getting Kingston, 220Q, and the various DCs in there too would be of great use.... Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 15, 2014, at 5:56 PM, McDonald Richards wrote:

Using PeeringDB like the rest of the Internet would be best. You could introduce a peering track/BOF into the NZNOG conference or get a lightning talk on how to use peeringdb?

Macca

From: Dean Pemberton Date: Monday, 16 June 2014 10:54 AM To: Jamie Baddeley Cc: McDonald Richards , nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] Power event in sky tower

Good feedback Jamie.

Not knowing where people are is a criticism I've heard a number of times now.

Most recently from a large content delivery network operator who went to the Peering DB and struggled to find any info on NZ ASNs.

I think we're past people keeping their pop locations a secret. Would something like a meet-me location web page, or a primer on how to use the Peering DB for the same purpose be useful to people? 'Peering socials' are held at other overseas meetings and they might be a good use for some nznog conference time.

Essentially operators get up on stage. Present a slide on where they are located and what their peering policy is. This is then followed by beer to allow deals to be made.

Seems to me that enough people saying 220 queen at one of these events might just get some traction.

Could even get some colo operators along.

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On Monday, June 16, 2014, Jamie Baddeley wrote: Hi Guys,

Citylink have been in the process of refreshing it's core infrastructure over the last few months. The big nodes for us in Auckland are Kingston and 220 Queen for many of the reasons that folks have already outlined. That's not to say Sky Tower is not important to us - it's just got different (ahem) qualities. So from Citylink's perspective 220 Queen is good. The sales guys tell me there's a bit of space at Kingston too.

Having said that we're always focussed on making the APE a distributed exchange point so in reality it shouldn't really matter where you are (inside the footprint of course). I guess you'd just need to weigh up whether being able to shop around for colocation and all of it's associated costs and the benefits that brings vs the cost of APE connectivity. Simply put we think the cost of making the wrong choice for colocation will outweigh any APE stuff.

Others have mentioned Mayoral Drive too. Falling out of the NZNOG conference this year was a message to get APE in there. We're working on that. Because we try to keep the cost of delivery low, we're having to be a little creative - essentially allowing us to set up crossconnects from an APE switch inside the site when we've been hosted by a 3rd party. Last time I spoke to someone at Chorus about this they said it wouldn't be until October until they could get into that.

Others have also mentioned a cost difference that is largely there for historical reasons. Citylink are actually looking at normalising the pricing across the APE to make it fairer for everyone. That's inline with our aim to have a distributed IXP so that it really doesn't matter where you are.

It'd be neat to see a list of locations around Auckland and who is where. That'll help us to make sure the APE is where you need it to be.

Cheers

jamie

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On 16 June 2014 12:08, McDonald Richards wrote: I would think 220 Queen Street would be the logical one for that reason? The bar is set pretty high for entry into Mayoral Drive…

Macca

From: Tony Wicks Date: Monday, 16 June 2014 10:05 AM To: 'Simon Allard' Cc: 'nznog' Subject: Re: [nznog] Power event in sky tower

If there is going to be a realistic alternative site it needs to cater to the smaller “community cabinet” customers and have a connect via whatever method suits you attitude. Mayoral drive is the polar opposite of this.

From:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Simon Allard Sent: Monday, 16 June 2014 12:00 p.m. To: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] Power event in sky tower

Mayoral Drive Exchange seems to be the other place to be, but Citylink have no POP there, which is a shame.

From:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Dean Pemberton Sent: Monday, 16 June 2014 11:46 a.m. To: Joel Cc: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] Power event in sky tower

Sounds like a good suggestion. Citylink? Care to comment?

And yes, everyone is there today... but if you want things to change then you do need to start a process.

Whats a better place in Auckland which we could start to work towards?

On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:36 AM, Joel wrote:

Someone from Citylink may like to confirm what I have said.

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