While we debate the merits (?) of DSL connectivity and how to handle modem pools here's an example of a service available in Japan. The last couple of pictures tell the story!
Got my 100Mb fiber optic installed yesterday...the connection is humming. I found the whole process very interesting and think that it is just amazing. The actual fiber is thinner than a human hair and its just fantastic. free install, free for two months, unlimited traffic and no more than $100 NZD/month.
I am one happy man : )
http://www.jesse-taylor.com/new/misc_images/100mb_install/index.htm
What's really disturbing is that when I was in Japan six 1/2 years ago, they were paying more than we were for ISDN. And ISDN here wasn't exactly cheap. So in six years they've managed to come from low 'net usage via dialup and expensive ISDN to affordable, flat-rate 100Mb/s FTTP. We don't even have that in the CBDs of our largest cities! On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, Andy Linton wrote:
While we debate the merits (?) of DSL connectivity and how to handle modem pools here's an example of a service available in Japan. The last couple of pictures tell the story!
Got my 100Mb fiber optic installed yesterday...the connection is humming. I found the whole process very interesting and think that it is just amazing. The actual fiber is thinner than a human hair and its just fantastic. free install, free for two months, unlimited traffic and no more than $100 NZD/month.
I am one happy man : )
http://www.jesse-taylor.com/new/misc_images/100mb_install/index.htm
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On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 15:33, Matthew Poole wrote:
What's really disturbing is that when I was in Japan six 1/2 years ago, they were paying more than we were for ISDN. And ISDN here wasn't exactly cheap. So in six years they've managed to come from low 'net usage via dialup and expensive ISDN to affordable, flat-rate 100Mb/s FTTP. We don't even have that in the CBDs of our largest cities!
The wonders of extremely dense population centres in a relatively small country. Nowhere in NZ even begins to approach the number customers per km of fibre of most large Japanese cities. -- Al.
Alasdair Muckart wrote:
The wonders of extremely dense population centres in a relatively small country. Nowhere in NZ even begins to approach the number customers per km of fibre of most large Japanese cities.
True, but in the areas which are densely populated by our standards - inner city apartments etc we don't even see Cat5/6 included in the wiring when they're fitted out.
Thankfully, one of the contractors we use here in Nelson isn't so short sited, and will only ever install Cat5/6, even if he terminates it into a phone jack, and uses one pair, the infrastructure is there for future use... On 3/12/2004, at 4:39 PM, Juha Saarinen wrote:
Andy Linton wrote:
True, but in the areas which are densely populated by our standards - inner city apartments etc we don't even see Cat5/6 included in the wiring when they're fitted out.
Only phone wiring, which costs about the same as Cat5 IIRC or more.
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Andy Linton wrote:
True, but in the areas which are densely populated by our standards - inner city apartments etc we don't even see Cat5/6 included in the wiring when they're fitted out.
Not entirely true. Most places are actually running cat5e for *atleast* phone lines nowadays. It's not uncommon for houses to be wired with one cat5 split for both voice and data. <sarcasm> I mean who really needs *all* the pairs right? Hell lets not even worry about line noise and/or where we throw line filters on. </sarcasm> -Richard
So the standards for home premises don't require two cables per Work Area Outlet? Surely these are not certified installers, as then it wouldn't meet Cat5 requirement, seeing that voice and data are on the same cable.
It's not uncommon for houses to be wired with one cat5 split for both voice and data.
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On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 04:31:27PM +1300, Andy Linton wrote:
True, but in the areas which are densely populated by our standards - inner city apartments etc we don't even see Cat5/6 included in the wiring when they're fitted out.
It's not unknown. I helped a little in the setup of a system installed in a new building this year, with a network jack in each apartment leading to a centralized accounting system. Regards, RH. -- Richard Haakma Technical support Please don't reply to SPAM, follow any links on it, or make fake bounces.
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