problems with NTP on bigben?
Anybody else observed that bigben gained about 19 years at about 1:25pm this arvo? $ date Tue Jan 1 14:54:33 NZDT 2002 $ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q truechimer.waikato.ac.nz server 130.217.76.32, stratum 2, offset -0.001089, delay 0.04276 1 Jan 14:49:38 ntpdate[17537]: adjust time server 130.217.76.32 offset -0.001089 sec $ /usr/sbin/ntpdate -q bigben.clix.net.nz server 203.167.224.60, stratum 1, offset 619315199.998172, delay 0.03613 1 Jan 14:49:55 ntpdate[17540]: step time server 203.167.224.60 offset 619315199.998172 sec - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Simon Blake wrote:
Anybody else observed that bigben gained about 19 years at about 1:25pm this arvo?
Apparantly it's a bug some GPS units sometimes get, they jump forward (or sometimes back) by 1024 weeks. Probally needs someone to kick it, but everybody here is using multiple sources right? -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz ihug, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 04:06:55PM +1300, Simon Lyall wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Simon Blake wrote:
Anybody else observed that bigben gained about 19 years at about 1:25pm this arvo?
Apparantly it's a bug some GPS units sometimes get, they jump forward (or sometimes back) by 1024 weeks.
I just saw three other Trutime GPS units perform similar acrobatics. bigben.clix.net.nz is a Trutime GPS clock. Looks (to me) more like a Trutime bug than a generic GPS clock bug. Joe - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:21:00PM -0500, Joe Abley wrote:
I just saw three other Trutime GPS units perform similar acrobatics. bigben.clix.net.nz is a Trutime GPS clock. Looks (to me) more like a Trutime bug than a generic GPS clock bug.
Yep - just turned on my Garmin II+ and it looks fine. So I'm inclined to agree that it's a Trutime problem rather than a generic GPS issue. Also interesting to note that linux ntp just looked at bigben and said "PFFFT right - not believeing you anymore" and went to an anternate server. Good dog! Dean - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Also interesting to note that linux ntp just looked at bigben and said "PFFFT right - not believeing you anymore" and went to an anternate server.
Our 7206 took it hook line and sinker, despite have multiple other sane sources at its disposal. What bigben did was not very British, I think CLEAR better change its name to something like 2bobwatch.clix.net.nz Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2DAY INTERNET LIMITED It's kind of fun to do the impossible - Walt Disney -/- - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Tue, 1 Jan 2002, Peter Mott wrote:
Our 7206 took it hook line and sinker, despite have multiple other sane sources at its disposal. What bigben did was not very British, I think CLEAR better change its name to something like 2bobwatch.clix.net.nz
router#sh clock *23:56:51.023 NZDT Tue Mar 2 1993 Bugger. Oh well... happy two-double-oh-two to everyone ;-) -- Juha Take off every sig! - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Tue, Jan 01, 2002 at 04:06:55PM +1300, Simon Lyall wrote:
Probally needs someone to kick it, but everybody here is using multiple sources right?
Just thought I'd mention -- I have seen IOS NTP clients for which bigben happened to be the selected master time source happily change their dates forward regardless of the fact there were other NTP servers configured which were remaining sane. Maybe the IOS NTP client is a little nieve. TrueTime has this recent firmware upgrade up on their web page, although the release notes don't mention this issue (which looks like it happened at 0000 UTC). http://www.truetime.com/DOCSn/SB_NTS_v007.htmlA Joe - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
At 02:55 p.m. 01/01/2002 +1300, Simon Blake wrote:
Anybody else observed that bigben gained about 19 years at about 1:25pm this arvo?
didn't notice when, but yes it mucked up my times........... rich richard.naylor(a)citylink.co.nz - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On 17 Aug 2021 at 15:40, Richard Naylor wrote:
At 02:55 p.m. 01/01/2002 +1300, Simon Blake wrote:
Anybody else observed that bigben gained about 19 years at about 1:25pm this arvo?
didn't notice when, but yes it mucked up my times...........
I'm quite confused by all this. The time daemon I use (ntpd) has some built in protection for such 'accidents'. Namely, it won't reset the time if it's going to be a big jump, whatever big is defined as. What time daemon was being used by the systems involved? I wasn't affected by this event, but then I'm not using bigben, but my ntp.conf is tictoc.clix.net.nz server paradise.net.nz server actrix.gen.nz server truechimer3.waikato.ac.nz server truechimer.waikato.ac.nz -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
InternetNZ is conducting a vote to gauge whether there is support for the creation of a new second level domain in the *.nz namespace - namely maori.nz. The details of the application and the entire process can be found at http://www.internetnz.net.nz/dns/2nd-level- domains/ and it is being considered based on the policy adopted in May 1997 for considering new second level domains. The application from Te Whänau Ipurangi/New Zealand Mäori Internet Society and the InternetNZ policy can be found at this link. Voting for this application will last 14 days from the date of the start. The vote will start February 22nd 2002 at 23:59 and closes March 8th, 2002 at 23:59. The application must receive at least 200 votes and at least 70% support for it to enter the next phase which is a formal submission process. This vote will not determine if .maori.nz 2LD is implemented, only to see if it has wide enough support for it to continue in the approval process. Voting is available via a website or email and details of voting can be found at http://www.internetnz.net.nz/dns/2nd-level- domains/2ld020219-voting_details.html Please note to be able to vote you have to have an valid email address and a NZ located postal address. Any missing information on the ballot will result in the ballot being ruled invalid. Please check to make sure all the required information is included on your ballot. Any inquiries should be sent to the Voting Officer at vote-help(a)internetnz.org.nz Steven Heath 2LD Application Convener - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:23:23PM +1300, Steven Heath wrote: http://www.internetnz.net.nz/dns/2nd-level- domains/ and it is being considered based on the Sigh... is it too much to ask that people not truncate/cut URLs when sending them? Especially when the above _DOES_ fit into 80 column width. Whänau Ipurangi/New Zealand Mäori Internet Society and the InternetNZ policy can be found at this link. Above I'm getting bogus characters, I'm seeing diaeresis instead of macrons. The application must receive at least 200 votes and at least 70% support for it to enter the next phase which is a formal submission process. This vote will not determine if .maori.nz 2LD is implemented, only to see if it has wide enough support for it to continue in the approval process. I would urge everyone here to vote. PLEASE take a few minutes and do so and stop this abhorent abuse we continue to witness. --cw - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
At 1:44 AM -0800 2/22/02, Chris Wedgwood wrote:
Above I'm getting bogus characters, I'm seeing diaeresis instead of macrons.
You need to install a font that has macrons replacing the diaresis characters. -- Andrew P. Gardner barcelona.com stolen, stmoritz.com stays. What's uniform about the UDRP? We could ask ICANN to send WIPO a clue, but do they have any to spare? Get active: http://www.tldlobby.com - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:35:13AM -0600, Andy Gardner wrote: You need to install a font that has macrons replacing the diaresis characters. No I don't. I already have one, several in fact. The characters need to be encoded correctly. --cw - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 10:35:13AM -0600, Andy Gardner wrote:
You need to install a font that has macrons replacing the diaresis characters.
No I don't. I already have one, several in fact.
The characters need to be encoded correctly.
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I'm totally in favour of this proposal. Imagine how it will add to the readability of the net in NZ if people wan have domain names like w?lc?m?.t?.m?ori.nz yeah it will be GREAT! Vote today! On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 01:08:19PM -0800, Chris Wedgwood wrote: - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Dean Pemberton wrote:
I'm totally in favour of this proposal.
Imagine how it will add to the readability of the net in NZ if people wan have domain names like
w?lc?m?.t?.m?ori.nz
yeah it will be GREAT!
Vote today!
And spelling checker up the arse? On a more serious note, will there be similar domains made available to other ethnic groups in NZ? Otherwise it wouldn't be fair, would it? -- Juha Take off every sig! - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 10:19:01AM +1300, Juha Saarinen wrote:
And spelling checker up the arse?
Thanks for that =)
On a more serious note, will there be similar domains made available to other ethnic groups in NZ? Otherwise it wouldn't be fair, would it?
This came up last time. And my understanding was that it's not about being fair. They state that because M?ori is an official language of NZ that they should be given special consideration with regard to this domain. While samoan.nz would be able to be applied for, their position seems to be that it should recieve less cred because Samoan is not an official language of NZ. It's strange, people spend so much time wanting equality, and then so much more of their time wanting to be treated specially. Next thing you know they will want their own section of seating at the front of the bus. Treat everyone equally, and then we can all get along. Dean - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Why is this poll not accepting my valid email address? cousins(a)cousins.in-newzealand.com is being bounced as invalid - I can assure you it is a valid address, hosted on my own servers in Wellington! Ian Cousins Director, PhoneNet At 22:23 22/02/02 +1300, you wrote:
InternetNZ is conducting a vote to gauge whether there is support for the creation of a new second level domain in the *.nz namespace - namely maori.nz.
The details of the application and the entire process can be found at http://www.internetnz.net.nz/dns/2nd-level- domains/ and it is being considered based on the policy adopted in May 1997 for considering new second level domains. The application from Te Whänau Ipurangi/New Zealand Mäori Internet Society and the InternetNZ policy can be found at this link.
Voting for this application will last 14 days from the date of the start. The vote will start February 22nd 2002 at 23:59 and closes March 8th, 2002 at 23:59.
The application must receive at least 200 votes and at least 70% support for it to enter the next phase which is a formal submission process. This vote will not determine if .maori.nz 2LD is implemented, only to see if it has wide enough support for it to continue in the approval process.
Voting is available via a website or email and details of voting can be found at http://www.internetnz.net.nz/dns/2nd-level- domains/2ld020219-voting_details.html
Please note to be able to vote you have to have an valid email address and a NZ located postal address. Any missing information on the ballot will result in the ballot being ruled invalid. Please check to make sure all the required information is included on your ballot.
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On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, PhoneNet wrote:
Why is this poll not accepting my valid email address?
cousins(a)cousins.in-newzealand.com is being bounced as invalid - I can assure you it is a valid address, hosted on my own servers in Wellington!
Ian Cousins Director, PhoneNet
rDNS? $ dig -x 203.97.144.41 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;41.144.97.203.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR ;; ANSWER SECTION: 41.144.97.203.in-addr.arpa. 172800 IN PTR cousins-cl41.netlink.net.nz. -- Regards, Juha C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 11:04:47AM +1300, Juha Saarinen wrote: rDNS? $ dig -x 203.97.144.41 Actually, look harder --- the DNS _is_ valid. Anyhow, it shouldn't prevent mail, doing so would break so many things. It does raise an interesting point, the NIC records for NZ allocated address space and the quality and quantity of reverse information available is abysmal --- and my guess is 80% or more of this mess could be corrected by readers of this list. --cw - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
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At 16:40 17/08/2021, Richard Naylor wrote:
At 02:55 p.m. 01/01/2002 +1300, Simon Blake wrote:
Anybody else observed that bigben gained about 19 years at about 1:25pm this arvo?
didn't notice when, but yes it mucked up my times...........
Like the fact that your email to nznog is dated 2021 ? I was wondering why your email was sorting to the bottom of my new messages list all the time..... :) Regards, Simon
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Andy Gardner -
Chris Wedgwood -
Dan Langille -
Dean Pemberton -
Joe Abley -
Juha Saarinen -
Peter Mott -
PhoneNet -
Richard Naylor -
Simon Blake -
Simon Byrnand -
Simon Lyall -
Steven Heath