Keep in mind that list seems to include all the prefixes we present at APE, a lot of which are AU ones. Macca Vocus From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Drew Broadley Sent: Wednesday, 2 September 2009 2:11 PM To: Donald Gordon Cc: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] NZ prefix list This was mentioned not long ago. Not 100% and updated daily: http://nzip.meta.net.nz/files/nzip/nzsubnets.txt - Drew On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Donald Gordon wrote: Hi I'm in need of a view of what IP prefixes are local to NZ (ideally, what FX considers domestic, but I'm not too picky) for a personal project. My upstream can't provide me with a BGP feed, alas. Is there anyone here who could provide me with a multihop BGP view of their domestic routing table, or a looking glass I could screen-scrape? thanks (and beer?) in advance donald _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

For interests sake: I make that 7,224,736 addresses. The "Australian Domestic" transit I get in Oz, which includes most of NZ has 43,057,689 addresses in it. which gives about 1.7 v4 addresses per person across the countries. So, we just need to shuffle things around a bit, grab some of the space some people are wasting it and we can, together, ride out the v4 exhaustion thing laughing. MMC On 02/09/2009, at 1:40 PM, Drew Broadley wrote:

This was mentioned not long ago.

Not 100% and updated daily: http://nzip.meta.net.nz/files/nzip/nzsubnets.txt

- Drew

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:43 AM, Donald Gordon wrote: Hi

I'm in need of a view of what IP prefixes are local to NZ (ideally, what FX considers domestic, but I'm not too picky) for a personal project. My upstream can't provide me with a BGP feed, alas. Is there anyone here who could provide me with a multihop BGP view of their domestic routing table, or a looking glass I could screen-scrape?

thanks (and beer?) in advance

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Andy, You've missed the business opportunity here. If every household pools their 0.7 address each, then Australia and New Zealand will become the only place in the world to be able to HOST ipv4 content. No longer will we be held ransom to paying overseas transit to see 80% of our content, we'll be able to bill the rest of the world to host their content. We'll be rich. MMC (Don't fall into the mistake of taking me seriously here). On 03/09/2009, at 12:15 PM, Andy Linton wrote:

On 2/09/2009, at 19:30 , Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote:

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For interests sake:

I make that 7,224,736 addresses.

The "Australian Domestic" transit I get in Oz, which includes most of NZ has 43,057,689 addresses in it.

which gives about 1.7 v4 addresses per person across the countries.

So, we just need to shuffle things around a bit, grab some of the space some people are wasting it and we can, together, ride out the v4 exhaustion thing laughing.

:-)

A few thoughts:

That'll be fine until you need to talk to someone outside AU and NZ who hasn't had the luxury and only has IPv6 addresses.

As long as shuffling things around isn't a euphemism for carrier grade NAT!

Clearly those people who are wasting space should be got off the net.

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