On 28 Apr 2004, at 02:38, Peter Simmons wrote:

Perhaps there is someone from Telstra Clear on this list that can help.

We (Strongnet) own the 210.54.142.0/24 range it is hosted at United Networks datacentre in Northcoat, Auckland.

For some reason or other the routers that Telstra Clear 'Tempest' customers go through is routing traffic to that ip range as over its international connection. This means that those customers have to pay international rates for traffic that goes to our network. Obviously they should only have to pay national traffic rates as it is national.

The APE looking glass shows 210.54.142.0/24 being originated by Orcon (AS 17746). If you want Orcon to propagate your route towards TCL in a way that is not currently happening, the normal procedure would be to talk to Orcon and ask them to arrange it for you. If TCL are receiving and accepting such a route from Orcon, it's reasonable to think they would use it (hence, the fact that they seem not to be using it suggests that the route from Orcon is missing or filtered). Using the NZNOG mailing list as a general conduit to issue orders to random operators with whom you neither peer nor buy transit is often less than optimally effective. Joe