Somewhere in the 32 - 128 kbit range is probably realistic, my money would be on something like 64kbit. Or maybe they'll just put all "over-cap" users in their own bandwidth pool and let them fight it out. But really, lets say Telecom gave you two options: 1) $0.05 per extra meg or 2) speed limited after 10 gig And now lets say you blow your limit by a couple of gig. OK, so now what would you prefer? A $100 bill for extra traffic or slow Interweb for a few days? I know what I'd prefer. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Poole [mailto:matt(a)p00le.net] Sent: Monday, 9 February 2004 1:15 p.m. To: Ivan Walker Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] New Telecom Jetstream Plans Leaked? What's this "Speed MAY be reduced" (emphasis mine) bull? We all know that Telecom will throttle you back to dialup speeds the second you touch that 10GB cap. I notice they don't say what they'll throttle it back to, so you can be certain that it will be a decidedly unattractive speed - 32kbit/s, anyone? On Mon, 9 Feb 2004, Ivan Walker wrote:

Details at

http://www.telecom-media.co.nz/releases_detail.asp?id=3006&page=1&page size=10

Ivan

On Mon, 9 Feb 2004 12:00:18 +1300 Neil Gardner wrote:

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Can anyone confirm if these plans:

A) Will be available through other ISPs? (although the fact that these are labelled Telecom plans here, not Xtra - is confusing)

B) Lump together the cheap-as-chips national and expensive as diamond International Data? I presume they do so all traffic counts towards the totals?

-- Cheers - Neil Gardner Networking and Security Support Engineer Renaissance Brands (09) 968-3681 / (021) 746-345

-----Original Message----- From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] Sent: Monday, 9 February 2004 11:55 a.m. To: Tristram Cheer Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] New Telecom Jetstream Plans Leaked?

Tristram Cheer wrote:

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Anyone on the list be able to confirm this?

"download of 256k upload of 128k 1gig plan, 3 gig and a 10 gig plan! But instead of being charged for extra usage they throttle you to dialup speeds after the 10gig"

http://www.angst.co.nz/arr.jpg

Not leaked -- annnounced today.

Note that the pricing will be $10 less for customers who put all their calls through Telecom.

$39.95/$49.95 for the 1GB plan with 5c/MB excess $49.95/$59.95 for the 3GB plan with 5c/MB excess $59.95/$69.95 for the 10GB plan with no excess charging, but throttling

That's retail, with/without Telecom Calling. Resale is $10 less.

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Personally, I think this is the best improvement telecom has made in ages! Basically they have noticed 128k is too slow for the standard, so 256k will probably become the standard, this is probably also to match paradise cable connections. Barry -----Original Message----- From: James Clark [mailto:jamesc(a)wave.co.nz] On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 01:15:26PM +1300, Matthew Poole wrote:

What's this "Speed MAY be reduced" (emphasis mine) bull? We all know that Telecom will throttle you back to dialup speeds the second you touch that 10GB cap.

"Speed MAY be reduced", probably something like - we're still working on implementing this feature... till we do you'll have 256k If you don't want your net to slow down when you hit 10GB (or whatever) don't signup to the plan... James.