Re: [nznog] Campbell Live tonight
"Theresa, if the data caps are only present because of the cost of international data, why are there data caps in place on UBS connections?
Wholesale UBS connections only connect end-users with local ISPs, and are therefore 100% local and non-international. Can you explain?"
I didn't see the show, but was this question asked? I'm guessing not.
JSR
Forgive me for my late revival of the thread... I finally saw the segment and came away with one question: When they decided our entry-level broadband plans (based on the new prices etc. etc.) compete on a world scale, did they include the cost of the phone line rental in their baselining? As far as I know you still cannot purchase an ADSL connection without first purchasing a telephone line rental which costs $42.20 (Auckland cost according to the latest prices I received from Telecom). These costs when added together represent a minimum cost of $72.15 for broadband (under xtra's new plans) which is more than the $1.50 per day cost that Teresa referred to on the Campbell Live segment. Is this dual-charging common in the other OECD countries - especially those with LLU? -- Regan
On 28-Feb-2006, at 20:28, Regan Murphy wrote:
Is this dual-charging common in the other OECD countries - especially those with LLU?
Yes. It's also very common for people to be annoyed by it. Sometimes this makes things change; sometimes, however, the changes are highly theoretical and in practice the song remains the same. Perhaps we should all move to the UK, where apparently broadband will be free in 2009. Joe Begin forwarded message:
From: "Bill St.Arnaud" <bill.st.arnaud(a)canarie.ca> Date: 28 February 2006 10:06:00 EST (CA) To: <news(a)canarie.ca> Subject: [CAnet - news] Broadband will be free, says British Telecom Reply-To: bill.st.arnaud(a)canarie.ca
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February 26, 2006
http://www.tmcnet.com/usubmit/-broadband-will-be-free-two-years- /2006/02/26/1407694.htm
Broadband will be free in two years
(Daily Mail (London) (KRT) Via Thomson Dialog NewsEdge)
Feb. 26--BT IS planning to offer free broadband to all its customers -- currently 20 million -- when the telecoms giant's 10 billion 21st Century Network project is switched on.
This was originally scheduled for 2009, but will now probably be a year earlier, according to a senior company source.
"The 21CN system will give customers broadband dialtone -- meaning broadband will be available just by plugging a computer in as part of basic line rental," a spokesman said.
Additional services, including the possibility of buying extra fast download speeds for as little as a day at a time, will be possible. "With the new network, there is no need to install boxes or send engineers," the spokesman said.
The company is trying to decide whether it should also make its video-on-demand service, set for launch this summer, available to non-BT customers.
Crucial to the scheme is rapid progress in development of the new network. BT has only awarded half the contracts for building the system but says the signing of contracts is "imminent." The company will probably operate the old network in parallel with the new system to ease the transition.
The first city to be fitted with the new system will be Cardiff, where development should be complete before the end of the year.
Broadband dialtone will also help BT sell its mobile phone product Fusion, which switches calls to BT Broadband when the customer is at home.
So far the company has sold only 13,000, but this summer sees the launch of handsets from major manufacturers that can use wi-fi, the radio system millions of Britons use to connect home PC networks.
Ryan Jarvis, head of mobile products at BT, said: "At the moment, I can serve only customers with BT Broadband. Obviously, I want everyone to be a broadband user."
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On (28/02/06 20:59), Joe Abley wrote:
On 28-Feb-2006, at 20:28, Regan Murphy wrote:
Is this dual-charging common in the other OECD countries - especially those with LLU?
Yes. It's also very common for people to be annoyed by it. Sometimes this makes things change; sometimes, however, the changes are highly theoretical and in practice the song remains the same.
The situation is quite similar here in the US, despite legislation to the contrary... The incumbant can charge a 'reasonable' access fee to competitors for use of their facilities, which in my experience comes out to be $20-50 USD/month added to my DSL bill. The more well developed metro areas have better prices and availability, while the more rural areas are generally monopolized... Some recent court decisions have favoured the imcumbant cable providers in denying access to competitors, and the telcos are pushing for a similar interpretation in their favour. So the grand deregulation legislation meant to encourage competition and better pricing/service to the end user is being twisted to legalize monopolization Legislation sounds good, but it usually ends up being written to favour the companies with the most resources to spend on maintaining their monopolies.
Perhaps we should all move to the UK, where apparently broadband will be free in 2009.
and here I am planning to move to NZ... :) /joshua - -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. - Douglas Adams - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFEBcNmJr8VjiIHVH0RAoJpAJ46DTEEGlKDrJG7+j8x5A4Rpb7bfACeOsM7 bO93R7j8O2j28hsAUixbqt0= =Du05 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Soo in true TVNZ fashion. they were behind the times once again....... With their Sunday feature last night on Local Loop Un-bundling.. PS .. I don't / nor want to see a copy of this on here ;) Although this time they had the guys from iHug there.. and Teresa was there spinning her usual feces, about how we are already going faster and that we are pay......... and I went to sleep, however woke up in time to hear the continuing comments about promising us access to this long awaited "Next Generation Network" we hear so much about from Telecom, but few few, if any, have ever seen. Slogan time... "Local Loop Un bundling.. It's a taste of the "Next Generation"" perhaps? or for the more geeky in us.. "The Next Generation" Star-date, 2025 nuf said.....
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