Actually, it's not nearly as expensive as you might think... well under market rates for a tower that size. Of course, the bandwidth is the expensive part (it's not the fall that kills you; it's the sudden stop). As for competing with IHug, after reading over the seniority unlicensed spectrum rights clause in the APE's peering agreement, you'll soon understand that you're not "competing" with anything but the envy that commercial providers might have of your success in distributing the service. In short, plan to be shut down if you even think about doing DSSS on the Sky Tower without the blessing the existing tenants. Of course, they hardly ever send anyone up with a spectrum analyser to check, so you'll probably get away with it for a good while (long enough to get enough people to buy expensive gear that they'll be upset when you get turned off... then all you'll have to do is simultaniously move to several adjacent properties, get a Clear city fiber LAN connection (if it has come out of the vapor, marketing stage yet) for each of those properties and get used to paying ceullar site antenna rates). Of course if it were easy, free or even possible, someone-else would have already done it. All the same, I wish you luck... the idea of spectrum rights for unlicensed spectrum is an aberation that will eventually be challenged from the outside, given the current rate of commercial acceptance the 802.11b standard is now just beginning to experience. Chris Hellberg wrote:

Same response as Juha's. I've always had an idea of having a wireless-internet or wireless LAN co-op after I read a slashdot story about it. The only prob I can see with this is the yearly rental of the space at the sky tower for the comms gear. Aparently it's a few thousand a year.

Chris

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"Juha Saarinen" 01/19/01 11:21a.m.

Trying to compete with Ihug eh? ;-)

Yes to a) & b)... and c) as well, I suppose, depending on the size of the chip so to speak.

-- Juha

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