2day.com assistance required
Forwarded for Rob, since he's subscribed to nznog using his 2day.com address (see below). Mail to 2day.com addresses is currently being bounced by the host listed in the wildcard A record in the COM zone, so if your customers call and complain that they can't send mail to foo(a)2day.com, this is probably why. Begin forwarded message:
From: Rob Isaac
Date: Tue Sep 16, 2003 17:10:32 Canada/Eastern To: jabley(a)automagic.org Subject: 2day.com assistance required A registrar inadvertently put the 2day.com zone on REGISTRAR HOLD, with the unpleasant result of removing it from the root zone.
This makes hosts in the zone 2day.com unresolvable. The registrar in question has been appropriately disciplined, but it will be some time until the root zone is updated.
In the meantime, it would be helpful if you could add a stub to your name servers, so that requests for things in the 2day.com zone are still resolved appropriately until the root servers catch up. This should reduce your customer support load relating to services hosted by 2day.com.
Sample stub for BIND8, mangle as appropriate.
--- snip --- zone "2day.com" { type stub; file "2day.com"; masters { 202.37.240.3; 198.32.66.4; 203.118.144.212; } }; --- snip ---
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From: "Joe Abley"
on behalf of A registrar inadvertently put the 2day.com zone on REGISTRAR HOLD, with the unpleasant result of removing it from the root zone. This makes hosts in the zone 2day.com unresolvable.
Surely any domain hosted by 2day would also be unresolvable as the delegation for those zones would be by nameserver name and as I remember it all of 2day's name servers are in the 2day.com namespace.
In the meantime, it would be helpful if you could add a stub to your name servers, so that requests for things in the 2day.com zone are still resolved appropriately until the root servers catch up.
One assumes that many nameservers will cache that bad name lookup and fixing the root servers won't fix the problem immediately. Do you have an estimate of how long before this problem fixes itself. Would adding the stub to the servers that are authorititive for .co.nz bypass the problem for .co.nz zones (avoid a referal to the root servers). Cheers BG.
On Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003, at 17:34 Canada/Eastern, Brian Gibbons wrote:
From: "Joe Abley"
on behalf of A registrar inadvertently put the 2day.com zone on REGISTRAR HOLD, with the unpleasant result of removing it from the root zone. This makes hosts in the zone 2day.com unresolvable.
Surely any domain hosted by 2day would also be unresolvable as the delegation for those zones would be by nameserver name and as I remember it all of 2day's name servers are in the 2day.com namespace.
Actually, no; 2day's nameservers are present in the respective registry zones as glue records, so it's just 2day.com that is affected.
In the meantime, it would be helpful if you could add a stub to your name servers, so that requests for things in the 2day.com zone are still resolved appropriately until the root servers catch up.
One assumes that many nameservers will cache that bad name lookup and fixing the root servers won't fix the problem immediately. Do you have an estimate of how long before this problem fixes itself.
The negative caching time should be limited by the negative cache TTL in the COM zone, which is set to a day, for resolvers that recognise the final parameter of the SOA RDATA as such. However, loading the stub zone config into a recursive nameserver's config will override that.
Would adding the stub to the servers that are authorititive for .co.nz bypass the problem for .co.nz zones (avoid a referal to the root servers).
There is no problem for co.nz zones delegated to 2day.com nameservers, per above. Joe
"Brian Gibbons"
Surely any domain hosted by 2day would also be unresolvable as the delegation for those zones would be by nameserver name and as I remember it all of 2day's name servers are in the 2day.com namespace.
No, the COM zone still holds host records for ns[1-3].2day.com. Since these are no longer part of a delegated domain, the GTLD servers actually give authoritative responses for those records. Moral: if you want stuff to survive in COM/NET through this kind of disaster, register <domain>.COM and WWW.<domain>.COM as your name servers and they'll stay current as long as your registrar maintains your host records. This trick won't work in NZ, where once a domain is dead, it stays dead and doesn't leave zombie glue records walking the earth... -- don
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-24.html I have the NZ Redhat mirror syncing the updates now.
On Tuesday, Sep 16, 2003, at 17:14 Canada/Eastern, Joe Abley wrote:
zone "2day.com" { type stub; file "2day.com"; masters { 202.37.240.3; 198.32.66.4; 203.118.144.212; } };
BIND 9 requires a semi-colon at the end of the line that begins "masters", so: zone "2day.com" { type stub; file "2day.com"; masters { 202.37.240.3; 198.32.66.4; 203.118.144.212; }; }; is better advice (works on bind 8 and bind 9). Joe
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