The well considered (and widely consulted) InternetNZ/ISOCNZ submission on SOP 85 (the 'antihacking' provisions) put together by Ewen McNeil and others is available at http://www.isocnz.org.nz/issues/iswg010209submsm_crimes-amend-bill-6.html The SOP itself and other links are to be found under 'Legislation' at: http://www.isocnz.org.nz/issues/index.html But to save everyone from the need to search, I can summarise by noting that the issues raised by the Australian Bill are not part of any NZ legislation currently before Parliament, or contemplated. On the other hand, I do believe that Hamish is correct to draw attention to the position of ISPs should NZ be placed in a position of being required to harmonise our laws with international movements. There will be an ISP Forum organised by InternetNZ later this year and these matters should be discussed there. Frank March Specialist Advisor, IT Policy Group Ministry of Economic Development, PO Box 1473, Wellington, NZ Ph: (+64 4) 474 2908; Fax: (+64 4) 471 2658

-----Original Message----- From: Hamish MacEwan [SMTP:nznog(a)Hamish.MacEwan.gen.nz] Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2001 16:21 To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Australian Bill - "10 years for hacker toolkits, scanners and virus code."

I've read some of the discussion at, http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/07/07/0132226

and wonder if anyone has any reassurance to offer about the NZ bill?

I'm presuming the practitioners on this list will be in some kind of grey area in this legislation, unless the State wishes to introduce a form of licensing, a la Car Salesmen, Security Guards, Doctor, and Network Operator who is granted specific exemptions regarding the general provisions of the law.

The other, supra-legislative, issue that might have an operational impact on the operation of the Internet in NZ is this Hague Treaty expansion, at the behest of the usual beneficiaries, to encompass content law.

Is there any concern that NZ ISPs will become liable, if the law is so elsewhere in the world?

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