I don't think its so much particular brands that are an issue, but rather the sheer volume of poorly designed websites. With the popularity of MS Word & Frontpage, there seems to be a lot of ignorance relating to the W3C standards. In the past, caching has made some sense for accelerating content to clients. As far as bandwidth savings go, I've never seen that achieved to the point that it made them worthwhile in that role. They can improve performance as perceived by the customer, but bypass lists rapidly become unwieldy when trying to compensate for sites that don't adhere to standards. Overall, in terms of TCO, they're probably not worth having in place any more Cheers, Gordon

-----Original Message----- From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2004 1:13 p.m. To: Alastair Johnson Cc: NZ Network Operators Group Subject: Re: [nznog] Google and MaxNet

So which caches have people had success/hassle with?

-- Juha