If daylight saving is brought forward this year, I guess we'd need a new 2001-only rule in the unix timezone database. The copy I have in my OpenBSD source tree says updates should get sent to tz(a)elsie.nci.nih.gov. Is there some standard government protocol for notifying changes in daylight-saving time to other relevant agencies, like IATA? Just interested :) Joe http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=207726&thesection=news&thesubsection=general Daylight saving idea to beat cuts 15.08.2001 By VERNON SMALL deputy political reporter An early start to daylight saving is possible if the electricity crisis deepens. The radical idea, coming as energy savings fall below the required 10 per cent, could cut power use by extending daylight into the evening peak time. A spokesman for Energy Minister Pete Hodgson said the minister had an open mind on the suggestion, put forward by one industry player. The proposal would be explored over the next two weeks, but Mr Hodgson would not say whose idea it was because the person had requested anonymity. A rough estimate by electricity market company M-Co showed an overall power reduction of 3.5 per cent in the first week of daylight saving last year. For the past three years, the reduction in the first week averaged 2 per cent. More important, in the first week of daylight saving, peak evening consumption, between 5 pm and 8 pm, dropped 7.5 per cent last year and an average of 5.5 per cent over the past three years. Peak morning demand, between 7 am and 9 am, fell by smaller amounts. "If you can keep it lighter later, the lights come on later and you save power," said M-Co's general manager of communications, Jane Tronson. Decreasing demand in peak times could also reduce potential price spikes. Act energy spokesman Gerry Eckhoff called for clocks to be put forward as early as September 1 rather than the due date of October 7. That would save power because people would eat dinner earlier and might use the barbecue instead of the electric stove, the MP said. "I guess if they sit down to dinner and watch the news at 5 pm instead of 6 pm it is still a wee bit warmer." Even a small amount of saving on lighting could accumulate across the country. There could be bigger savings in the North, where twilight lasts less time than in the South. But Federated Farmers energy spokesman Tom Lambie firmly rejected the suggestion. "We are in the busiest time of year in full flight with calving. The last thing people want to do is get up in the dark. The first daylight hours are precious for getting on with the job." A study in California, which has suffered rolling blackouts, found that daylight saving saved only small amounts of power but caused significant reductions in peak use. However, Mr Eckhoff said California had a big demand for power for air-conditioning rather than heating. The icy blast sweeping NZ from the south has caused another hiccup in the power-saving effort. Snowfalls and a cold southerly change meant savings dropped to 6.5 per cent on Monday. In the past seven days, average savings have been 9.4 per cent. However, M-Co admitted yesterday that the power saving figure published for Saturday was incorrect. The actual saving was 7.3 per cent, not 1.8 per cent as it reported. Meanwhile, one power company is trying to boost the everyone-pull-together power-saving message by offering yet another cash incentive - this time with a twist. Contact Energy, one of the four big electricity generators, which also has about 22 per cent of the retail market, will give up to $400,000 to worthy causes in regions where power consumption is cut by 10 per cent over the next month. Contact chief executive Stephen Barrett said regions must save at least 4 per cent to get any money. Those that missed the 10 per cent target but still made savings would be rewarded on a sliding scale. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Joe Abley wrote:
If daylight saving is brought forward this year, I guess we'd need a new 2001-only rule in the unix timezone database.
( Must control fist of death ) No! Bad! Doing Australia last year was a pain, I in no way plan to go through that again with a couple of weeks notice and on EVERY server, router and NAS (okay not NASs cause Ascend never understood the concept (Ours run in ihug standard time which is +12:00 all year)) I've sent a quick email to the isocnz list as well, but I'd appreciate anyone with the minister's ear stomping on this this "bright idea". -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz ihug, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Simon Lyall wrote:
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Joe Abley wrote:
If daylight saving is brought forward this year, I guess we'd need a new 2001-only rule in the unix timezone database.
( Must control fist of death )
No! Bad!
Doing Australia last year was a pain, I in no way plan to go through that again with a couple of weeks notice and on EVERY server, router and NAS (okay not NASs cause Ascend never understood the concept (Ours run in ihug standard time which is +12:00 all year))
I've sent a quick email to the isocnz list as well, but I'd appreciate anyone with the minister's ear stomping on this this "bright idea".
Amen to that. I think that someone hasn't quite figured out that by the first Sunday of October, it's starting to warm up. In September, IT'S STILL RATHER CHILLY (insert relevant expletives where desired, for better effect). It doesn't matter whether or not you give people more daylight at the end of the day if the temperature is still hovering marginally above single figures. Hell, we just had a person hauled out of a ravine in the central north island who had a core temperature of 25 degrees. The IT aspects of this aren't so much scary as annoying. Sure, it doesn't really hurt anything if times are out by an hour until the proper NZDT rollover date arrives, but I'm sure it will be expected that all IT infrastructure will be set to the correct time. What does one do about OSs like Windoze that don't have flexible daylight savings rules? Methinks that whoever came up with this idea needs to engage their brain prior to opening their mouth. Of course, that would defeat the purpose of them being a politician. -- Matthew Poole "Ever wondered why cemetaries raise the cost of burials then blame it on the cost of living?" --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
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Joe Abley
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Matthew Poole
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Simon Lyall