Re: [nznog] FYI: Telecom changes the ADSL playing field again...
Stephen Ridley
21/10/2004 11:00:01 a.m. And the latency is somewhat better than what we used to get from the jetstream link: traceroute to xtra.co.nz (202.27.184.102), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 a.a.a.a (a.a.a.a) 0.926 ms 0.864 ms 0.922 ms 2 b.b.b.b (b.b.b.b) 8.465 ms 8.123 ms 12.425 ms 3 cs2-e4-7-acld.auckland.clix.net.nz (203.97.9.98) 8.771 ms 9.305 ms 9.286 ms 4 g1-0-927.u11.tspn.telstraclear.net (218.101.61.6) 11.422 ms 10.660 ms 10.282 ms 5 xtra.ape.net.nz (192.203.154.60) 14.338 ms 10.610 ms 10.278 ms 6 v512.XTRAK2-B1.xtra.co.nz (202.27.176.226) 11.048 ms 10.160 ms 10.023 ms
We don't need no Interleaving We don't need no surf control No dark deals screwing VOIP Telcos, leave them bits alone Hey, Telcos! Leave them bits alone! All in all it's just another service to fall All in all, you're just a consumer that's going to get screwed by corporate greed and can't do a damn thing about it at all! (Apologies to Pink Floyd and for the number of syllables in the last line :-) N. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesyn Research Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesyn Research.
Neil Gardner wrote:
We don't need no Interleaving We don't need no surf control No dark deals screwing VOIP Telcos, leave them bits alone Hey, Telcos! Leave them bits alone! All in all it's just another service to fall All in all, you're just a consumer that's going to get screwed by corporate greed and can't do a damn thing about it at all!
Cost of building national IP network: $2.4 billion Cost of S&S advertising and marketing plan: $4.5 million Value of Neil's ditty: Priceless!! Keith Davidson
Nice.... Just wish I had a few billion lying around to build a network the techs 'would' be proud of.....
We don't need no Interleaving We don't need no surf control No dark deals screwing VOIP Telcos, leave them bits alone Hey, Telcos! Leave them bits alone! All in all it's just another service to fall All in all, you're just a consumer that's going to get screwed by corporate greed and can't do a damn thing about it at all!
-- Bill Walker, MCSE, MCP+I Partner Netspeed (Wanaka) Ltd ------------------------------------------------------------- Phone: +64 21 222 4440 Fax: +64 3 443 4440 Email: bill.walker(a)netspeed.net.nz Web: www.netspeed.net.nz ICQ: 4746863 MSN: msn(a)wjw.co.uk Skype: wjw.co.uk
For all of the ISPs who are making continued pointless off-topic rantings about Telecom I have yet to see any of you declare yourselves charities or even act in a manner any less intent on profit. This is a BUSINESS. Techo opinions don't count for anything unless there is a BUSINESS case. Don't like ADSL? Build your own flippin network.
Nice.... Just wish I had a few billion lying around to build a network the techs 'would' be proud of.....
We don't need no Interleaving We don't need no surf control No dark deals screwing VOIP Telcos, leave them bits alone Hey, Telcos! Leave them bits alone! All in all it's just another service to fall All in all, you're just a consumer that's going to get screwed by corporate greed and can't do a damn thing about it at all!
Michael Hallager networkStuff ltd www.networkstuff.co.nz | p.09.839.1000 | m.029.638.7883
Michael, keep quiet please. I for one am sick of seeing your name come up on the list. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Hallager [mailto:michael(a)networkstuff.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 21 October 2004 8:07 p.m. To: Bill Walker Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] FYI: Telecom changes the ADSL playingfield again... For all of the ISPs who are making continued pointless off-topic rantings about Telecom I have yet to see any of you declare yourselves charities or even act in a manner any less intent on profit. This is a BUSINESS. Techo opinions don't count for anything unless there is a BUSINESS case. Don't like ADSL? Build your own flippin network.
Nice.... Just wish I had a few billion lying around to build a network the techs 'would' be proud of.....
We don't need no Interleaving We don't need no surf control No dark deals screwing VOIP Telcos, leave them bits alone Hey, Telcos! Leave them bits alone! All in all it's just another service to fall All in all, you're just a consumer that's going to get screwed by corporate greed and can't do a damn thing about it at all!
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participants (5)
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Bill Walker
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Craig Spiers
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Keith Davidson
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Michael Hallager
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neil gardner