Can whois registrar info be wrong?
Hey all, Is it technically possible for the registrar details in whois (for a .com domain) be out of date, or is the whois the canonical source of the info? If it is possible, how would I go about finding out who's really in control? Does a registrar have an interface for that? Unfortunately I'm not sure how reliable my client's own records are on this ... Cheers, Richard
On 17 September 2015 at 09:24, Richard Hector
Is it technically possible for the registrar details in whois (for a .com domain) be out of date
Yes. WHOIS hasn't been accurate in nearly twenty years. This might change however: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/approved-with-specs-2013-09-17-en#whoi... -JB
On 17/09/15 10:44, Jonathan Brewer wrote:
On 17 September 2015 at 09:24, Richard Hector
mailto:richard(a)walnut.gen.nz> wrote: Is it technically possible for the registrar details in whois (for a .com domain) be out of date
Yes. WHOIS hasn't been accurate in nearly twenty years.
Cheers - so how do I find out who actually has the rights/ability to update the registry for a given domain (assuming for the moment that the registrant doesn't know)? Richard
You need to start with the current whois information and contact the listed parties. On 2015-09-17 10:52, Richard Hector wrote:
On 17/09/15 10:44, Jonathan Brewer wrote:
On 17 September 2015 at 09:24, Richard Hector
mailto:richard(a)walnut.gen.nz> wrote: Is it technically possible for the registrar details in whois (for a .com domain) be out of date
Yes. WHOIS hasn't been accurate in nearly twenty years.
Cheers - so how do I find out who actually has the rights/ability to update the registry for a given domain (assuming for the moment that the registrant doesn't know)?
Richard
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Is it technically possible for the registrar details in whois (for a .com domain) be out of date, or is the whois the canonical source of the info? If it is possible, how would I go about finding out who's really in control? Does a registrar have an interface for that?
.com is a thin registry, which means that registrars hold the registrant data and publish the WHOIS, not the registry. There have been problems with many registrars over the years not publishing correct data or publishing data for domains that they are no longer the registrar for but ICANN has put a lot of effort into compliance and that is getting much better. The WHOIS protocol does normally return whatever is the canonical data stored by the actual registrar and so if that’s not telling you what you want then you won’t get any better information from the registrar. When you conduct a WHOIS for a .com it will include a block like this at the top: Domain Name: <something>.COM Registrar: GODADDY.COM, LLC Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 146 Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com which tells you the registrar’s WHOIS. You can query that directly with: whois -h <whois server> <domain name> but it’s unlikely to tell you anything different. Send me the domain off-list and I might be able to help. Jay
Unfortunately I'm not sure how reliable my client's own records are on this ...
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On 17/09/15 11:03, Jay Daley wrote:
Send me the domain off-list and I might be able to help.
Thanks Jay; have done. The reason for all this is that I want to transfer the domain to a new registrar, and my understanding is that I need to extract a transfer password out of the old registrar to be able to do that. Richard
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