Hello from Australia, This is my first post to this list, just subscribed - looks interesting! Figured this was the most obvious place to start asking questions ... The organisation I work for has just made some aquisitions in NZ. We have taken over (or about to) an existing network running on the Telecom PON service. I was wondering - is there a global register of network providers in NZ? Currently we are sticking with Telecom as its already implemented, but I would like to research further out and see what other options there are. We have a guide for AUS, http://www.whirlpool.net.au/ Though not completely concise its an excellent start. I'm finding already the Telecom PON service - even the upgraded POM - quite restrictive. I cannot SNMP query any routers (we do all our own stats) nor, can I manage these myself (we also managed all our own gear). DSL in NZ seems quite interesting - up to 8Mbit/s according to the Xtra website? I take it this is not gaureenteed and on distance basis as well. I notice that you utilise full GDMT here - not GDMT.Lite as we do. Without moving off the Telstra DSLAMs I am lucky if I can get 1.5Mbit/s downstream and 256k up. Very interested to know more about providers, carriers, etc. over there in NZ - hopefully might be able to head over in the near future too! Cheers, Ev-
Hi, Evan, since nobody has piped in, I'll say hello. For a list of the suppliers you could look at the local peering exchanges. You probably got the NZNOG summrary when you joined, otherwise I enclose a copy.
DSL in NZ seems quite interesting - up to 8Mbit/s according to the Xtra website? I take it this is not gaureenteed and on distance basis as well. I notice that you utilise full GDMT here - not GDMT.Lite as we do. Without moving off the Telstra DSLAMs I am lucky if I can get 1.5Mbit/s downstream and 256k up.
Yes, well...
DSL in NZ can do 8Mb physically, but after about 5 minutes use you will
start handing out bit fat wads of cash which is why most consumers
stick to the flatrate 128KB/s.
Basically whenever you think Telecom you can substitute Oz Telstra,
they are held in the same regard.
The Auckland peering exchange
http://www.ape.net.nz/
The Wellington peering exchange
http://www.wix.net.nz/
The probably out of date NOC list.
http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/index.html
jfp.
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Jean-Francois Pirus
On 21 Sep 2004, at 16:56, Juha Saarinen wrote:
Joe Abley wrote:
... the important difference being that in Australia they have a regulator.
Is that the same regulator whose most notable effort was the creation of "The Gang of Four" peering club?
I don't know if that's their most notable effort (perhaps you mean infamous). When comparing the strategies of an incumbent telco, however, the presence or absense of a regulator makes a big difference. Joe
Hi,
Thanks to all for responses - some quite interesting ;)
I'll start some investigations now, you have all been quite helpful. I
will keep my eye on this list, who knows - I may be useful for
something in here.
Cheers,
Ev-
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 16:55:06 +1200, jfp
Hi, Evan, since nobody has piped in, I'll say hello.
For a list of the suppliers you could look at the local peering exchanges. You probably got the NZNOG summrary when you joined, otherwise I enclose a copy.
DSL in NZ seems quite interesting - up to 8Mbit/s according to the Xtra website? I take it this is not gaureenteed and on distance basis as well. I notice that you utilise full GDMT here - not GDMT.Lite as we do. Without moving off the Telstra DSLAMs I am lucky if I can get 1.5Mbit/s downstream and 256k up.
Yes, well...
DSL in NZ can do 8Mb physically, but after about 5 minutes use you will start handing out bit fat wads of cash which is why most consumers stick to the flatrate 128KB/s.
Basically whenever you think Telecom you can substitute Oz Telstra, they are held in the same regard.
The Auckland peering exchange http://www.ape.net.nz/
The Wellington peering exchange http://www.wix.net.nz/
The probably out of date NOC list. http://www.usenet.net.nz/noc/index.html
jfp.
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