-----Original Message----- From: Alan Mitford-Taylor [mailto:Alan.Mitford-Taylor(a)telecom.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2001 11:52 a.m. To: peter.mott(a)2day.com
the planned improvement in the Clear peering bandwidth still awaits clear's signature on a contract, we have link in place and ready to go but can not proceed without legal sign off, unfortunately this has been situation since last October so I don't know when it will be resolved, but continue to chase it.
I guess the same contract is also waiting Telecom's sig Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
The question is, what does the "contract" say ? Who wrote up the contract ? Does the contract have lots of legal nasties and charges. I heard a roumor that the contract said that both parties charge each other the same amount which means that the only party that get's money in reality is the government in the form of gst ! I may only be a techie, but that sounds damn silly to me. -----Original Message----- From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of Peter Mott Sent: Thursday, 8 March 2001 7:00 a.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: Telecom - Clear peering bandwidth
-----Original Message----- From: Alan Mitford-Taylor [mailto:Alan.Mitford-Taylor(a)telecom.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2001 11:52 a.m. To: peter.mott(a)2day.com
the planned improvement in the Clear peering bandwidth still awaits clear's signature on a contract, we have link in place and ready to go but can not proceed without legal sign off, unfortunately this has been situation since last October so I don't know when it will be resolved, but continue to chase it.
I guess the same contract is also waiting Telecom's sig Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2day.com -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
Actually, GST would not be paid, as each party would pay it and claim it back. GST is targetted at end users, not businesses. It is interesting to watch each party blame the other for not having the circuit up, and still for Clear to claim that that Netgate is not a major a player in the Domestic Internet market. (BTW, I'd really appreciate feedback on this last bit, as I'm in a dispute with my account Manager on this point at the moment). I know XTRA != Netgate, but how many ISP's have a connection to Netgate for national traffic ? Cheers, David Gottschalk Web InterNet Ltd On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Tony Wicks wrote:
The question is, what does the "contract" say ? Who wrote up the contract ? Does the contract have lots of legal nasties and charges. I heard a roumor that the contract said that both parties charge each other the same amount which means that the only party that get's money in reality is the government in the form of gst ! I may only be a techie, but that sounds damn silly to me.
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of Peter Mott Sent: Thursday, 8 March 2001 7:00 a.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: Telecom - Clear peering bandwidth
-----Original Message----- From: Alan Mitford-Taylor [mailto:Alan.Mitford-Taylor(a)telecom.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2001 11:52 a.m. To: peter.mott(a)2day.com
the planned improvement in the Clear peering bandwidth still awaits clear's signature on a contract, we have link in place and ready to go but can not proceed without legal sign off, unfortunately this has been situation since last October so I don't know when it will be resolved, but continue to chase it.
I guess the same contract is also waiting Telecom's sig
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I know XTRA != Netgate, but how many ISP's have a connection to Netgate for national traffic ? Now there is the really interesting part, Xtra certainly does not equal Netgate. Xtra as an entity has no problem peering whatsoever, its only Netgate that does. I believe quite a few ISP's use Netgate for domestic connectivity. If any ISP's want a domestic link ( up to about 10M ) we would be happy to supply this at a reasonable price. Current peering ISP's at APE are - Clear, Plain, Telstra, Ihug, Attica, Xtra, Morenet Connection types could be - Telecom dds/atm, United fibre, Clear frame, Telstra frame, Walker Wireless hmm, the cat is now among the pigeons, hehe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Tony Wicks wrote:
I know XTRA != Netgate, but how many ISP's have a connection to Netgate for national traffic ? Perhaps they were being pedantic and want us to use the new business name Global something or other Except they forget that "netgate" has fewer syllables than the new name
Clear, Plain, Telstra, Ihug, Attica, Xtra, Morenet , Quicksilver Internet
Connection types could be - Telecom dds/atm, United fibre, Clear frame, Telstra frame, Walker Wireless
hmm, the cat is now among the pigeons, hehe Well you forget RFC 1149
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I have a letter from Telecom stating that Netgate will be withdrawn from general availability next week. It might be smarter to spend your energy looking for an alternative.
I know XTRA != Netgate, but how many ISP's have a connection to Netgate for national traffic ?
As of next week, definitely one less. Phil
-----Original Message----- From: owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:owner-nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz]On Behalf Of Tony Wicks Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 12:32 p To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: RE: Telecom - Clear peering bandwidth
I know XTRA != Netgate, but how many ISP's have a connection to Netgate for national traffic ?
Now there is the really interesting part, Xtra certainly does not equal Netgate. Xtra as an entity has no problem peering whatsoever, its only Netgate that does. I believe quite a few ISP's use Netgate for domestic connectivity. If any ISP's want a domestic link ( up to about 10M ) we would be happy to supply this at a reasonable price. Current peering ISP's at APE are -
Clear, Plain, Telstra, Ihug, Attica, Xtra, Morenet
Connection types could be -
Telecom dds/atm, United fibre, Clear frame, Telstra frame, Walker Wireless
hmm, the cat is now among the pigeons, hehe
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On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 09:00:21AM +1300, Peter Mott wrote: > From: Alan Mitford-Taylor [mailto:Alan.Mitford-Taylor(a)telecom.co.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2001 11:52 a.m. > To: peter.mott(a)2day.com > > the planned improvement in the Clear peering bandwidth still awaits > clear's signature on a contract, we have link in place and ready to go > but can not proceed without legal sign off, unfortunately this has been > situation since last October so I don't know when it will be resolved, > but continue to chase it. the above statement frm TCNZ isn't entirely accurate nonetheless, both CLEAR and TCNZ are working to resolve the issue(s) --cw -- Chris Wedgwood chris.wedgwood(a)clear.co.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog
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