RE: [nznog] Routing funky-ness to WIX via GGI?
Newbie alert! We're connected directly to GGI, what are our options (if any) for peering with APE/WIX? Later'ish Craig [don't ask, we have more politics than the Behive...]
-----Original Message----- From: Matthew Poole [mailto:matt(a)p00le.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 9:38 AM To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Routing funky-ness to WIX via GGI?
A number of people are reporting difficulties accessing the Debian mirror at ftp.citylink.
FTPing in from IHUG or Max (and apparently from Xtra, and I'd guess anyone else who transits via GGI) gets the following message: 550- ISP Routing Error 550- 550- Your ISP's access to local New Zealand content is currently 550- broken. Please contact your ISP and advise them that they 550- may well be able to fix this problem for you by peering with 550- the route servers and/or other ISPs at the APE or the WIX. 550- 550- The server you have connected to is not within New Zealand. 550- In order to protect you from prohibitive international 550- traffic charges, you will not be able to access the resources 550- you were looking for, here. 550- 550- We apologise for any inconvenience. 550
Now, we all expect Xtra/Telecom to play nasty games with domestic traffic, but can anyone shed light on why "good" ISPs such as the Hug or Max aren't doing the domestic peering thing? Are we starting to see preemptive peering termination by ISPs who're preparing for the day when the two Ts stop playing the game?
On the other side, are we now seeing a trend towards content providers playing a political game to try and reverse the swing away from peering? Obviously Citylink are far more involved at the peering level than nearly any other content provider, but blocking access to content mirrors under the guise of protecting the consumer(when in reality it's protecting the provider) is not a good way to make friends.
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On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Craig Humphrey wrote:
Newbie alert!
We're connected directly to GGI, what are our options (if any) for peering with APE/WIX?
Get an AS number from APNIC, if you don't already have one Get circuit(s) to either or both of the peering points Advertise your routes across the peering circuits Pass traffic It's more technically detailed than that, obviously, but the basics are pretty simple. I'm sure some of the more technical people on here can give you full step-by-step instructions, including how to go about getting circuits into the peering point(s) of your choice.
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Craig Humphrey wrote:
Newbie alert!
We're connected directly to GGI, what are our options (if any) for peering with APE/WIX?
Well you don't have to go the full APNIC route if all you are after is local peering. You can advertise the space ( /25 , /26 or whatever) you are getting from your current provider across the exchanges (via another ISP or a private AS and the route servers) If you are central Wellington or Auckland you can connect directly to WIX or APE via citylink into your building. Failing that Vector/Tangent fibre might also connect to your building and you can get a link into APE/WIX via that. Next choice might be Whoosh, Wired Country or another Wireless provider into an ISP. After that Telecom and Telstra will sell you circuits from anywhere to anywhere. If you are buying WIX or APE only traffic you should be able to negotiate a good deal with an ISP since they will probably have plenty of space on the WIX/APE link so you would be costing them much. Cost will probably be between $500 and $1000 per month. Perhaps even a little less. -- Simon J. Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.
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