This was found in the header of Andy's email:

X-Authentication-Warning: kiwi.wise.net.nz: Host dup-200-64-243-2.prodigy.net.mx [200.64.243.2] claimed to be [192.168.1.25] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: agardner(a)wise.net.nz

And he has at least 3 different email addresses/domain names.

- agardner(a)wise.net.nz - andy(a)navigator.co.nz - And where does "kiwiwise.net.nz" fit into all of this?

He calls me a girl, idiot, a w**ker and a nazi for running MY OWN mail server as I see fit.

"If you can't handle deleting 30 mail messages a day, you're a GIRL" "On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Andy Gardner wrote:

...

What an idiot/nazi/wanker.

And a GIRL to boot!"......

And he makes threats:

"I'm shaking in my boots.

Wait until the media hears that you're willing to block mail to all of your clients based on one message that YOU didn't like.

What an idiot/nazi/wanker" -------------------------------------------------------

I think I will ignore them all. (Jeff and Andy G and Andy L)

At 7:23 PM +1300 1/22/02, Michael Hallager wrote:

...

Jeff has raised a very good point. I would like to apologise to the people organising the conference for making a comment without also providing an idea/contribution.

Please don't respond to Jeff, it only encourages him.

<SNIP>

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Jeff makes the rules in his fantasy world. He has created this INEG 'Role Playing Game' in which he is using various mail lists as suppliers of other unsuspecting players :-)

Correspondents are simply unwittingly (or wittingly in some cases) playing Jeff's game.

I attach the latest version of the Jeff William's FAQ for archival

it seems you spend more time writing to the nznog than running your own mailserver? why not just ignore that shit and get on with life? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hallager" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:51 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: Conference purposes.

Cheers,

Darrell

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Jeff Williams' FAQ. (00/02)

--

1. Who is Jeff Williams?

Jeffrey A. Williams, , has claimed in postings to various lists:

-- to be the Chief Executive Officer and the Co-Founder of the 4.8 billion dollar privately held employee owned INEG. INC

-- to be the Director of Internet Network Engineering and Senior Java/CORBA Engineer for the Information Network Engineering Group, INEG INC.

-- to be an ex-IBM Fellow,

-- to have to have graduated from UTD and to have a law degree from SMU Law School

-- to have three degrees, MBA, Masters in Computer Science and Engineering, and Law

-- to have served as a judge for 7 years

-- to be a member of the IETF

-- to serve on several medium sized business boards and on the boards of several banks

-- to be the author of two books and is working on a third

-- to own 3 ISPs, including Frisco net, Deltanet and Wiltel, with 1.6 million users

-- to own 8% of eBay

-- to have been a fighter pilot with USMC, flying missions in Chile and for the DEA, as a reserve pilot in the USMC, stationed out of Grand Prairie air station just south of Dallas

-- to have been acting squadron commander of the Marine combat F4 squadron VMF214 (Black Sheep) at Tan Son Nhut during the Viet Nam war

-- to have spent several years in NIS (Naval Investigative Service)

-- Graduate of Naval Staff & War College

-- Retired Colonel, United States Marine Corps

However,

-- Jeff's 'INEG. INC' does not exist except as a fantasy in Jeff Williams' mind.

-- Jeff changed the name of the company in his .sig, in Jan 1998, from 'Information Eng. Group' to Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC., when the real Information Engineering Group http://www.ieg-america.com/, became aware of Jeff's use of their name.

-- SMU Law School Registrar's office, (214) 768-2618, disclaims all knowledge of Jeff.

Jeffrey A. Williams is a fake and an imposter.

--

2. Is there other material available on Jeff Williams?

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05347.html -- a posting regarding Jeff's non-relationship with IEG. He changed the name of his 'company' on his .sig from IEG to INEG shortly afterwards.

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05398.html -- a posting by Frederic Wilf regarding Jeff's claim to have attended SMU.

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05525.html -- a posting by Kent Crispin commenting on Jeff's claims.

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08000.html -- a list of Jeff's claims to 1998 by Alex Kamantauskas.

http://web.archive.org/web/20000707224140/http://robin.fcn.net/mr99jeff.html

an account of Bob Allisat's hour long phone call with Jeff and subsequent events.

an account of Ellen Rony's attempt to attend Jeff's INEG Dallas conference.

http://www.fichtner.net/outlook/1999-01.html -- a German reporter's article on Jeff... written in German, use http://babelfish.altavista.com/ if you don't read German.

Note, Jeff also posts under the following personas and email addresses; David "Dude" Jenson and James Touton . [Added by WXW, he also posts as Brian Hollingsworth and Bob Davis]

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In addition to this, we also have some local content on Jeff, in the IDNO-DISCUSS archives, where him and I had a conversation regarding NZ's Internet infrastructure. During this conversation he claimed:

1. To have a 668 GigaBit satellite uplink from his laptop

2. To INEGroup having offices in NZ, with a Sbone connection to the Internet.

3. To INEGroup doing business in Chile, and having an Sbone connection to the Internet in Santiago.

JW's a flake. If everyone here agrees to stop replying to him (or better yet, filter him), he'll soon get bored and go play in another sandpit.

-- Andrew P. Gardner barcelona.com stolen, stmoritz.com stays. What's uniform about the UDRP? We could ask ICANN to send WIPO a clue, but do they have any to spare? Get active: http://www.tldlobby.com - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

At 7:23 PM +1300 1/22/02, Michael Hallager wrote:

...

Jeff has raised a very good point. I would like to apologise to the people organising the conference for making a comment without also providing an idea/contribution.

Please don't respond to Jeff, it only encourages him.

Courtesy of Darrell Greenwood:

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Jeff makes the rules in his fantasy world. He has created this INEG 'Role Playing Game' in which he is using various mail lists as suppliers of other unsuspecting players :-)

Correspondents are simply unwittingly (or wittingly in some cases) playing Jeff's game.

I attach the latest version of the Jeff William's FAQ for archival

http://web.archive.org/web/20000616115116/http://robin.fcn.net/mr99ronydebun k.html purposes.

Cheers,

Darrell

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Jeff Williams' FAQ. (00/02)

--

1. Who is Jeff Williams?

Jeffrey A. Williams, , has claimed in postings to various lists:

-- to be the Chief Executive Officer and the Co-Founder of the 4.8 billion dollar privately held employee owned INEG. INC

-- to be the Director of Internet Network Engineering and Senior Java/CORBA Engineer for the Information Network Engineering Group, INEG INC.

-- to be an ex-IBM Fellow,

-- to have to have graduated from UTD and to have a law degree from SMU Law School

-- to have three degrees, MBA, Masters in Computer Science and Engineering, and Law

-- to have served as a judge for 7 years

-- to be a member of the IETF

-- to serve on several medium sized business boards and on the boards of several banks

-- to be the author of two books and is working on a third

-- to own 3 ISPs, including Frisco net, Deltanet and Wiltel, with 1.6 million users

-- to own 8% of eBay

-- to have been a fighter pilot with USMC, flying missions in Chile and for the DEA, as a reserve pilot in the USMC, stationed out of Grand Prairie air station just south of Dallas

-- to have been acting squadron commander of the Marine combat F4 squadron VMF214 (Black Sheep) at Tan Son Nhut during the Viet Nam war

-- to have spent several years in NIS (Naval Investigative Service)

-- Graduate of Naval Staff & War College

-- Retired Colonel, United States Marine Corps

However,

-- Jeff's 'INEG. INC' does not exist except as a fantasy in Jeff Williams' mind.

-- Jeff changed the name of the company in his .sig, in Jan 1998, from 'Information Eng. Group' to Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC., when the real Information Engineering Group http://www.ieg-america.com/, became aware of Jeff's use of their name.

-- SMU Law School Registrar's office, (214) 768-2618, disclaims all knowledge of Jeff.

Jeffrey A. Williams is a fake and an imposter.

--

2. Is there other material available on Jeff Williams?

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05347.html -- a posting regarding Jeff's non-relationship with IEG. He changed the name of his 'company' on his .sig from IEG to INEG shortly afterwards.

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05398.html -- a posting by Frederic Wilf regarding Jeff's claim to have attended SMU.

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/05525.html -- a posting by Kent Crispin commenting on Jeff's claims.

http://www.gtld-mou.org/gtld-discuss/mail-archive/08000.html -- a list of Jeff's claims to 1998 by Alex Kamantauskas.

http://web.archive.org/web/20000707224140/http://robin.fcn.net/mr99jeff.html

an account of Bob Allisat's hour long phone call with Jeff and subsequent events.

http://web.archive.org/web/20000616115116/http://robin.fcn.net/mr99ronydebun k

.html an account of Ellen Rony's attempt to attend Jeff's INEG Dallas conference.

http://www.fichtner.net/outlook/1999-01.html -- a German reporter's article on Jeff... written in German, use http://babelfish.altavista.com/ if you don't read German.

Note, Jeff also posts under the following personas and email addresses; David "Dude" Jenson and James Touton . [Added by WXW, he also posts as Brian Hollingsworth and Bob Davis]

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In addition to this, we also have some local content on Jeff, in the IDNO-DISCUSS archives, where him and I had a conversation regarding NZ's Internet infrastructure. During this conversation he claimed:

1. To have a 668 GigaBit satellite uplink from his laptop

2. To INEGroup having offices in NZ, with a Sbone connection to the Internet.

3. To INEGroup doing business in Chile, and having an Sbone connection to the Internet in Santiago.

JW's a flake. If everyone here agrees to stop replying to him (or better yet, filter him), he'll soon get bored and go play in another sandpit.

-- Andrew P. Gardner barcelona.com stolen, stmoritz.com stays. What's uniform about the UDRP? We could ask ICANN to send WIPO a clue, but do they have any to spare? Get active: http://www.tldlobby.com - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Michael Hallager wrote:

This was found in the header of Andy's email:

X-Authentication-Warning: kiwi.wise.net.nz: Host dup-200-64-243-2.prodigy.net.mx [200.64.243.2] claimed to be [192.168.1.25] Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: agardner(a)wise.net.nz

And he has at least 3 different email addresses/domain names.

- agardner(a)wise.net.nz - andy(a)navigator.co.nz - And where does "kiwiwise.net.nz" fit into all of this?

kiwi.wise.net.nz is *my* server - and Andy is a "customer". Andy probably holds more than 3 domain names, and goodness gracious me, I hold more than 3 myself. Are the Internet Police in pursuit, or is there actually a reason for the query? Keith Davidson - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog