Peter and all, I recognize your frustration and share it. It is difficult to find a ICANN registrar that operates in a above board and honest manner. It's even more difficult to get the Bod and Staff of ICANN to do the oversight that it is supposed to be doing of it's accredited Registrars in a manner that reflects reasonable professionalism, if at all. And when finally ICANN does do some level of oversight, it drags it's feet to address the problem(s) with that registrar appropriately. But of course, these Accredited Registrars are large financial source for ICANN so perhaps that can to a degree be regretfully understood. Peter Mott wrote:

I have been out of this scene for a while, but if anybody knows of a registrar that actually works with minimum of fuss and no human interaction please ping me off list.

The sun is shining outside and I don't really have the motivation to build one. But if I have to ...

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