You were very happy to quote me for an internet connection only 3 months ago. The only thing that has happened since then is that I went to Net4U rather then your company - ConceptNet. Excluding limited internet connectivity, my business is fine. It is not "my fault" as you claim, as I did not cause Net4U to be disconnected by any streach of your imagination. As widely known, Telecom disconnected Net4U due to an alledged credit issue and this had a downstream effect on me. I never post about you. I never initiate an email to you and I have only ever had one meeting with you where you wanted (HAPPILY) to sell me internet connectivity. Despite this, you have a history of writing rude emails to me about nothing at all, which is why you were blocked at my MX server recently. I suggest that you take your own advice in A, B, C and D and hope very much that *your* business never has any "problems" at all, in case you end up having to swallow some of *your* own medicine. I am disapointed at the demise of Net4U. In the short time I had a frame relay link with them, Sahil gave me very good service and was responsive to my requirements. **************************************************************************************** If you wish to discuss anything in an appropriate manner, I suggest that you write me an email directly, including outlining any issues that you would like to sort out (I truely have no idea what they are) and we will handle this in a businesslike manner. **************************************************************************************** Otherwise I suggest that you discontinue this, rather then posting unrelated untrue, immature and defamitory garbage to the NZNOG list. Michael Hallager
This I don't think is worth continuing..
A) your not worth arguing with. B) right now I have better things to do C) im sure your business has its own problems right now, and its your own fault really. D) get over it. E) before you ask, I refuse to help you.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Hallager [mailto:michael(a)vivid.net.nz] Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2003 11:57 p.m. To: Craig Spiers Subject: Re: [nznog] Networkstuff Ltd / Link Networks / Comsolve Networksoutage
The business deals that say that you should watch what you say in public, lest it come back to you.
Could possibly be.. What business deal are we talking about?
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Hallager [mailto:michael(a)vivid.net.nz] Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2003 11:51 p.m. To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Networkstuff Ltd / Link Networks / Comsolve Networksoutage
Could this be the SAME Craig Spiers that big time bad mouths people in private and then promptly goes and does business deals with them?
I think it'd be a waste of time most people replying.. Considering what your like to deal with.
:)
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Hallager [mailto:michael(a)vivid.net.nz] Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2003 11:27 p.m. To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Networkstuff Ltd / Link Networks / Comsolve Networks outage
Hello all.
As of the 24th of December, all of our websites have been offline and our email unavailable due to the Net4U issue.
As we were running all of this via a frame relay connection supplied by Net4u, we are experiencing delays getting back online until an alternative ISP can be found.
I believe that we are close to closing a deal with another ISP, though I would welcome offers from other Auckland based ISPs, because I double appreciate the need for a "plan B" after this suddenly happening at the worst possible time.
The requirements are:
1. Telecom ATM at ISP end. 2. A minimum of a /26, though a /25 would be preferred. 3. Delegated reverse DNS for IP addresses. 4. 10Gb per month of international and flatrate national. 5. Dreamers wanting 20 cents per meg for claimed "wholesale data" need not apply. I have more important things to do right now then waste my time or yours on such nonsense.
If you are a "virtual ISP", do not bother applying either, as I can easy go to your upline and deal direct with those who actually have responsibility for the network.
The circuit type at my end is a frame relay and the tail circuit is owned by my company.
I can ONLY be reached at: michael(a)vivid.net.nz or below phone numbers. (After hours and weekend is fine).
// Michael Hallager Director || Head geek || Making IT work.
URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz networkStuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment.
Phone: 09 837-6100 (DDI) 0800 638-788 (Freecall) Fax: 09 837-8100 0800 329-788 (Freecall) Mobile: 027 477-7624
_______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
-- // Michael Hallager Director || Head geek || Making IT work.
URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz networkStuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment.
Phone: 09 837-6100 (DDI) 0800 638-788 (Freecall) Fax: 09 837-8100 0800 329-788 (Freecall) Mobile: 027 477-7624
_______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
-- // Michael Hallager Director || Head geek || Making IT work.
URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz networkStuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment.
Phone: 09 837-6100 (DDI) 0800 638-788 (Freecall) Fax: 09 837-8100 0800 329-788 (Freecall) Mobile: 027 477-7624
-- // Michael Hallager Director || Head geek || Making IT work. URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz networkStuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment. Phone: 09 837-6100 (DDI) 0800 638-788 (Freecall) Fax: 09 837-8100 0800 329-788 (Freecall) Mobile: 027 477-7624
Oh go away. If you want to discuss this privately, do so. It is not list material. I refused to answer your phonecalls after that meeting for a reason. THE END. -----Original Message----- From: Michael Hallager [mailto:michael(a)vivid.net.nz] Sent: Sunday, 28 December 2003 12:40 a.m. To: Craig Spiers Cc: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: right of reply. You were very happy to quote me for an internet connection only 3 months ago. The only thing that has happened since then is that I went to Net4U rather then your company - ConceptNet. Excluding limited internet connectivity, my business is fine. It is not "my fault" as you claim, as I did not cause Net4U to be disconnected by any streach of your imagination. As widely known, Telecom disconnected Net4U due to an alledged credit issue and this had a downstream effect on me. I never post about you. I never initiate an email to you and I have only ever had one meeting with you where you wanted (HAPPILY) to sell me internet connectivity. Despite this, you have a history of writing rude emails to me about nothing at all, which is why you were blocked at my MX server recently. I suggest that you take your own advice in A, B, C and D and hope very much that *your* business never has any "problems" at all, in case you end up having to swallow some of *your* own medicine. I am disapointed at the demise of Net4U. In the short time I had a frame relay link with them, Sahil gave me very good service and was responsive to my requirements. **************************************************************************** ************ If you wish to discuss anything in an appropriate manner, I suggest that you write me an email directly, including outlining any issues that you would like to sort out (I truely have no idea what they are) and we will handle this in a businesslike manner. **************************************************************************** ************ Otherwise I suggest that you discontinue this, rather then posting unrelated untrue, immature and defamitory garbage to the NZNOG list. Michael Hallager
This I don't think is worth continuing..
A) your not worth arguing with. B) right now I have better things to do C) im sure your business has its own problems right now, and its your own fault really. D) get over it. E) before you ask, I refuse to help you.
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Hallager [mailto:michael(a)vivid.net.nz] Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2003 11:57 p.m. To: Craig Spiers Subject: Re: [nznog] Networkstuff Ltd / Link Networks / Comsolve Networksoutage
The business deals that say that you should watch what you say in public, lest it come back to you.
Could possibly be.. What business deal are we talking about?
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Hallager [mailto:michael(a)vivid.net.nz] Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2003 11:51 p.m. To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Networkstuff Ltd / Link Networks / Comsolve Networksoutage
Could this be the SAME Craig Spiers that big time bad mouths people in private and then promptly goes and does business deals with them?
I think it'd be a waste of time most people replying.. Considering what your like to deal with.
:)
-----Original Message----- From: Michael Hallager [mailto:michael(a)vivid.net.nz] Sent: Saturday, 27 December 2003 11:27 p.m. To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Networkstuff Ltd / Link Networks / Comsolve Networks outage
Hello all.
As of the 24th of December, all of our websites have been offline and our email unavailable due to the Net4U issue.
As we were running all of this via a frame relay connection supplied by Net4u, we are experiencing delays getting back online until an alternative ISP can be found.
I believe that we are close to closing a deal with another ISP, though I would welcome offers from other Auckland based ISPs, because I double appreciate the need for a "plan B" after this suddenly happening at the worst possible time.
The requirements are:
1. Telecom ATM at ISP end. 2. A minimum of a /26, though a /25 would be preferred. 3. Delegated reverse DNS for IP addresses. 4. 10Gb per month of international and flatrate national. 5. Dreamers wanting 20 cents per meg for claimed "wholesale data" need not apply. I have more important things to do right now then waste my time or yours on such nonsense.
If you are a "virtual ISP", do not bother applying either, as I can easy go to your upline and deal direct with those who actually have responsibility for the network.
The circuit type at my end is a frame relay and the tail circuit is owned by my company.
I can ONLY be reached at: michael(a)vivid.net.nz or below phone numbers. (After hours and weekend is fine).
// Michael Hallager Director || Head geek || Making IT work.
URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz networkStuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment.
Phone: 09 837-6100 (DDI) 0800 638-788 (Freecall) Fax: 09 837-8100 0800 329-788 (Freecall) Mobile: 027 477-7624
_______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
-- // Michael Hallager Director || Head geek || Making IT work.
URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz networkStuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment.
Phone: 09 837-6100 (DDI) 0800 638-788 (Freecall) Fax: 09 837-8100 0800 329-788 (Freecall) Mobile: 027 477-7624
_______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
-- // Michael Hallager Director || Head geek || Making IT work.
URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz networkStuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment.
Phone: 09 837-6100 (DDI) 0800 638-788 (Freecall) Fax: 09 837-8100 0800 329-788 (Freecall) Mobile: 027 477-7624
-- // Michael Hallager Director || Head geek || Making IT work. URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz networkStuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment. Phone: 09 837-6100 (DDI) 0800 638-788 (Freecall) Fax: 09 837-8100 0800 329-788 (Freecall) Mobile: 027 477-7624
Does anyone happen to know of a list that provides a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. Other technical and operational matters relating to the Internet may also be discussed. If I wanted this crap I'd watch daytime soaps. N. -----Original Message----- From: Craig Spiers [mailto:craig(a)concept.net.nz] Sent: Sunday, 28 December 2003 10:45 a.m. To: michael(a)vivid.net.nz Cc: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] RE: right of reply. Oh go away. If you want to discuss this privately, do so. It is not list material. I refused to answer your phonecalls after that meeting for a reason. THE END.
Neil, don't post. You'll provoke Michael, who behaves himself when not posting :\ -----Original Message----- From: NZNOG(a)neilnz.com [mailto:NZNOG(a)neilnz.com] Sent: Sunday, 28 December 2003 10:55 To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: RE: [nznog] RE: right of reply. Does anyone happen to know of a list that provides a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. Other technical and operational matters relating to the Internet may also be discussed. If I wanted this crap I'd watch daytime soaps. N. -----Original Message----- From: Craig Spiers [mailto:craig(a)concept.net.nz] Sent: Sunday, 28 December 2003 10:45 a.m. To: michael(a)vivid.net.nz Cc: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] RE: right of reply. Oh go away. If you want to discuss this privately, do so. It is not list material. I refused to answer your phonecalls after that meeting for a reason. THE END. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
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