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Andy Linton

22 May 2012 22 May '12

10:14 a.m.

I had an impression that the utilisation of the NZNOG mailing list has tailed off and that its utility had diminished. I spent a little time today looking at the NZNOG archive at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ and compiled some stats on the number of postings and subjects over the years. There certainly appears to be less utilisation over the last few years. This may indicate that discussion has moved elsewhere or that there's less to discuss or that I can't count or ..... This doesn't take into account the usefulness of any of the postings or how often the 'beer' wildcard was invoked. I'm not asking for any action - I'm simply sharing the info I found.

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Michael Fincham

22 May 22 May

10:32 a.m.

On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:14:37 +1200, Andy Linton wrote:

This doesn't take into account the usefulness of any of the postings or how often the 'beer' wildcard was invoked.

I'm not asking for any action - I'm simply sharing the info I found.

I make it 302 posts mentioning beer out of 9833 (last time I trawled through this data anyway). NZRR updates have made up about 12% of the postings to the list since they began. -- -Michael Fincham

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Andy Linton

10:47 a.m.

I should note I excluded NZRR postings from the stats. On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Andy Linton wrote:

I had an impression that the utilisation of the NZNOG mailing list has tailed off and that its utility had diminished. I spent a little time today looking at the NZNOG archive at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ and compiled some stats on the number of postings and subjects over the years. There certainly appears to be less utilisation over the last few years.

This may indicate that discussion has moved elsewhere or that there's less to discuss or that I can't count or .....

This doesn't take into account the usefulness of any of the postings or how often the 'beer' wildcard was invoked.

I'm not asking for any action - I'm simply sharing the info I found.

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Joel Wiramu Pauling

23 May 23 May

8:13 a.m.

On 23 May 2012 15:47, Andy Linton wrote:

I should note I excluded NZRR postings from the stats.

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Andy Linton wrote:

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This may indicate that discussion has moved elsewhere or that there's less to discuss or that I can't count or .....

I have a theory that people have people more 'appearance management' orientated in the last 5-10 years as social media and the bulk of the populace have found communities of practice through CMC(computer mediated communications). This has resulted in a reduction in the amount of tolerance people have for seeking help from public groups; since they have alternative social groups where they don't have to maintain high appearance management behaviors. Just a theory.

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Simon Lyall

9:12 a.m.

On Thu, 24 May 2012, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote:

I have a theory that people have people more 'appearance management' orientated in the last 5-10 years as social media and the bulk of the populace have found communities of practice through CMC(computer mediated communications).

I'll put an alternative theory that NZNOG is not engaging the employees of the larger companies which means that as the industry consolidates we miss a larger proportion of the market. Does anyone have the number of employees of the larger companies ( Telecom, Telstra, Orcon, Chorus, Vodafone, etc)[1] that attended the recent NZNOGs? ( to remove the "can't talk in public" bias ) Speaking of alternative forums, I kind of manage the NZNOG linkedin group. Anyone have thoughts on directions they want that to go? [1] - There are a few ranking lists around. -- Simon Lyall | Very Busy | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz/ "To stay awake all night adds a day to your life" - Stilgar | eMT.

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