March 1999 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

list.waikato.ac.nz Has Moved
by Donald Neal 11 Dec '24

11 Dec '24

NZNOG-People, I have just finished migrating all of the mailing lists held at The University of Waikato from one server to another. I don't have any reason to believe that anything's gone wrong, but please bear with me for today if it turns out that something has. - Donald Neal -- Donald Neal | Q: How many Aucklanders does it take to change Systems Programmer/Analyst | a light bulb? The University of Waikato | A: Pass me that candle and I'll tell you. Hamilton, New Zealand | --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Sky Tower
by Robert Gray 01 Apr '99

01 Apr '99

> + The tower is very, very tall, and you can see a long, long way from the > top of it (including down) This alone makes it worthwhile except I am afraid of heights :( Robert Gray Clearview Communications, Auckland New Zealand bobg(a)clearview.co.nz http://www.clearview.co.nz/ Phone DDI +64 9 529 5704, Fax +64 9 529 5702, Mob +64 25 971 860 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Sky Tower
by Joe Abley 31 Mar '99

31 Mar '99

Hi all, Some random observations following our field trip this afternoon. + The ground-level machine rooms are operated by Sky City, and not Sky Tower -- hence we didn't get to see them. I will try to get access/ power/environmental details once I have a contact at the casino. + CLEAR, Telstra and Telecom all own fibre up the tower; the Sky Tower people do not provide any fibre access (they just provide ducts). + There are three main types of colo floor on the tower: o enclosed in metal, with access to external antennas (e.g. the Sky Tower FM antennae or customer-mounted DMR dishes) o enclosed in glass, behind which it is evidently practical to hang KU-band, cellular and DMR antennae o open to the elements, with weatherproof antennae and mounting hardware + on the enclosed decks, full 2.7m cabinets are available, as well as shared "community" cabinets (which are cheaper) + The tower colo decks are fed by two independent 10kW AC feeds from the base, where each is backed up by three generators. No DC power is available. There is a potential 15 second delay between an external power feed failing and the generators cutting in, so usual practice is to feed a UPS from both power busses, and to take AC or DC feeds off that to power equipment. + All floors are ventillated (especially the ones that are open to the elements :) + Access to the tower decks is supervised, and is available 24/7 + The comms decks seem surprisingly empty (although we only looked in three or four of them) + The tower is very, very tall, and you can see a long, long way from the top of it (including down) Prices for colo in the tower seem to vary according to what the application is, rather than how much space you take up -- it's all very "supply and demand". Clearly colo in the tower does not necessarily make sense if we're connecting routers together and using fibre back-haul; however, if some people are serious about doing radio shots back to base we could arrange a pair of 100baseT switches (one up the tower, one in the basement) joined with independently-routed 100baseFX uplinks, so that people only have to buy colo space in one place or the other. I think it would be a good idea to have a get-together to talk about all this, prior to Uniforum -- say at Galbraith's some time late next week? How does Thursday evening at 7pm sound to anybody else? If we can get a few people to agree to move on this, I think there is every chance on getting this up and running in the next couple of months. Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Tour of Sky Tower colo facilities
by Joe Abley 31 Mar '99

31 Mar '99

Hi all, Warren's tour will take an hour, and we can't have more than five people on each tour. Warren is happy to do two tours, though. I have split the respondants into two groups, based on who replied to me first: 1pm: Joe Abley <jabley(a)clear.co.nz> Bob Baal <rbaal(a)clear.co.nz> Jamie Clark <jclark(a)clear.co.nz> Barry Brown <bbrown(a)clear.co.nz> Tony Wicks <tonyw(a)iconz.co.nz> 2pm: Craig Anderson <craig(a)iprolink.co.nz> Peter Mott <peter(a)2day.net.nz> Nevil Brownlee <n.brownlee(a)auckland.ac.nz> Chris Wedgwood <cw(a)ix.net.nz> If you need to change slots, please try and e-mail someone in the other list directly and organise a swap. Again, meeting point is in the Atrium by the front door to the casino. Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Tour of Sky Tower Colocation Facility
by Joe Abley 30 Mar '99

30 Mar '99

Hi all, Warren Harding of JDA has kindly offered to conduct a brief tour of the colocation facility at the Sky Tower tomorrow afternoon at 1pm. A quick look round the communications deck up the tower may be possible (and may not be, depending on what work is going on up there at the time). [the main colo space is at ground level; for ISPs who would want to make use of wireless comms back to their base there is apparently plenty of fibre available up the tower to the comms deck] Each tour needs to be five people or less, due to the safety and security policies in place -- if there are more than five people interested, we will need to do the tour in shifts. If you are interested in this, could you let me know ASAP so I can give Warren some idea of numbers? Meeting point: in the atrium, through the front door to the casino; Time: 1pm, Thursday April 1. I will post details of the access/security/power arrangements in place tomorrow, for the benefit of those who can't come and look for themselves. Thanks, Joe --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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UniForum NZ '99 invitation
by Ray Brownrigg 29 Mar '99

29 Mar '99

UniForum NZ would be delighted to host an informal lunch time meeting of the NZ Network Operators Group on Friday 16 April from 12:00 midday, to permit open discussion of current network issues in a neutral forum. Further, there is the opportunity to use a small conference room (easily seating 30) at around that time (either immediately before or after lunch). I will reserve a room tentatively from 10:30am to 1:30pm, but if you would like these times extended, please contact me. Lunch will be provided free for those who are attending the NOG meeting, sponsored by ISOCNZ and UniForum NZ. Alternately for those NOG members wishing to make a full day of it, special one-day conference registrations are available. These cost $150 including GST, and include attendance at all the Friday (ISOCNZ Day) conference sessions, Morning and Afternoon Tea, and all the conference documentation. In addition, for those wishing to stay on, tickets are available for the Conference Dinner, including Champagne hour and after-dinner entertainment, for $90 including GST. Further information on the UniForum NZ '99 programme is available from the UniForum NZ web site at www.uniforum.org.nz, or via autoresponder from conference-info(a)uniforum.org.nz. Ray Brownrigg UniForum NZ '99 Conference Convenor --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Auckland Neutral Peering Exchange -Reply
by Donald Neal 28 Mar '99

28 Mar '99

>>> Joe Abley <jabley(a)clear.co.nz> 29/March/1999 10:18am >>> [...] >> Would this be a good topic for a NOG meeting at Rotorua? >Yes, I would have thought so. Although I am slightly scared of attending >now, given the likely amount of beer that will be apparently forced >down my throat within minutes of entering the bar :) What you need, Joe, is an "open beer relay", which automatically forwards unwanted beer to other beer consumption nodes within reach as defined by some reasonable nearness algorithm. - Donald Neal --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Auckland Neutral Peering Exchange -Reply
by 2Day Chief Enthusiast 28 Mar '99

28 Mar '99

Roger De Salis wrote >I have asked the conference organisers to post an informal invitiation >to the list >to hopefully attract all of the nog readers to an informal meeting. > >There is also a great deal going on with WIPO/ICANN, and the hacking >debate within NZ will not go away. I would like to raise both >the issues in an informal meeting. If NOG are going to meet to discuss a peering exchange, it should stick to just that, not venture into other things. Unless of course beer is provided, then it wont matter. regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2Day Internet Limited http://www.2day.net.nz -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Auckland Neutral Peering Exchange -Reply -Reply
by Donald Neal 28 Mar '99

28 Mar '99

>>> "Tony Wicks" <tonyw(a)iconz.co.nz> 29/March/1999 04:21pm >>> Where do I find the details ( dates etc ) of this Uniforum Meeting ? See http://www.uniforum.org.nz/1999/conf99.html for Uniforum NZ conference information, and http://www.uniforum.org.nz/1999/programme-timetable.html for the timetable. The obvious place to put an NZNOG BOF in the existing timetable would be between 17:30 and 19:30 or so on Friday 16th, but it may well be necessary to start earlier to fit in any serious discussion of an exchange point. - Donald Neal --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Auckland Neutral Peering Exchange -Reply
by 2Day Chief Enthusiast 28 Mar '99

28 Mar '99

>On Mon, Mar 29, 1999 at 04:21:00PM +1200, Tony Wicks wrote: >> Where do I find the details ( dates etc ) of this Uniforum Meeting ? > >www.uniform.org.nz Too many beers in the last message header! I doubt you will see many people in unifrom :-) Try http://www.uniforum.org.nz regards Peter Mott Chief Enthusiast 2Day Internet Limited http://www.2day.net.nz -/- --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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