May 2001 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

Re: Telecom Peering again :)
by Jamie Baddeley 22 May '01

22 May '01

Hi All, Noting the discussions regarding peering lately, may I suggest that the following info is of value: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/759/ipj_2-1/ipj_2-1_ps1.html and http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/759/ipj_2-2/ipj_2-2_ps1.html Happy Reading! jb (Who has Finally Stopped Lurking) --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Attica Prefix List update
by James Tyson 22 May '01

22 May '01

Hi all. Attica's got new networks to advertise: ip prefix-list attica-networks description Attica Communications Ltd, contact: noc(a)noc.attica.net.nz ip prefix-list attica-networks seq 5 permit 202.180.96.0/19 ip prefix-list attica-networks seq 10 permit 202.180.64.0/18 le 19 ip prefix-list attica-networks seq 15 permit 210.55.254.0/24 ip prefix-list attica-networks seq 20 permit 210.55.5.0/24 ip prefix-list attica-networks seq 25 permit 202.50.170.0/24 ip prefix-list attica-networks seq 30 permit 210.55.111.0/24 ip prefix-list attica-networks seq 35 permit 202.50.60.0/22 Cheers. James Tyson. Self-Deluded Governing Minority, Attica Network Operations. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: SPAM & OFF TOPIC BLATHERING
by Donald Neal 17 May '01

17 May '01

-- Donald Neal Mobility & Calling Platforms Network Delivery Telecom New Zealand Ltd >>> "Simon Lyall" <simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz> 05/18/01 01:49 >>> [...] >I was going to do a count of the number of posts to the list each month >this year so far but it appears the web archive is broken (only about the >first 30 articles for each month are kept). [...] Try the link that says "Next Page". :{)* By the use of advanced deci-digital counting methods, I get something like: January: Postings 60, Busiest Day 16 February: Postings 101, Busiest Day 24 March: Postings 133, Busiest Day 30 April: Postings 91, Busiest Day 35 May to yesterday (i.e .last sixteen days): Postings 134, Busiest Day 30 We've gone from an average of roughly three to four postings per day up till 7th May to 113 postings in the nine days starting 8th May. Those 113 postings appear to come from 31 different people. The most frequent posters were: Chris Wedgwood, Juha Saarinen: 12 Dean Pemberton: 8 Joe Abley, Simon Blake: 7 Simon Lyall: 6 Andy Gardner, Craig Whitmire: 5 That's a respectable number of people posting, but half of all messages from eight people and a quarter from three people. This may be a strong argument for another mailing list. Maybe not a very big one? On the other hand, there are 224 addresses on the nznog list, and all of three on nznog-digest. And I'm only on the latter to make sure it's working. If over 99% of subscribers choose not to take digests, maybe they're all happy. - Donald Neal --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: SPAM & OFF TOPIC BLATHERING
by Donald Neal 17 May '01

17 May '01

-- Donald Neal Mobility & Calling Platforms Network Delivery Telecom New Zealand Ltd >>> "Simon Lyall" <simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz> 05/18/01 01:49 >>> On Fri, 18 May 2001, Philip Beckmann wrote: > you missed one: > > isp flaming This is actually quite a useful exercise sometimes. Considering the number of people on the list (200 last time I looked) and their positions an ISP will usually at least look at publicly made complaints. Although I don't the majority of complaints tend to cast the complainer in a worse light than the complainee. I was going to do a count of the number of posts to the list each month this year so far but it appears the web archive is broken (only about the first 30 articles for each month are kept). I doubt email to this list makes up more than 10% of the mail for anyone on it. -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz ihug, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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SPAM & OFF TOPIC BLATHERING
by Chris Wedgwood 17 May '01

17 May '01

OK, this list is not getting full of noise and lots of off-topic messages... which is sure to upsets lots of people (like me on a bad day, except I'm as much to blame as anyone at present!). Is there any interest in creating another more informal list for these purposes, something as an alternative to what Usenet was once used for before many of us here gave up on it. Suitable ideas for the list might be: -- vendor flaming -- telco flaming -- domainz flaming -- OS flaming -- extreme levels of buffoonery -- 'classifieds' for hardware and jobs sort of thing. Comments? --cw -- Chris Wedgwood chris.wedgwood(a)clear.co.nz --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: SPAM & OFF TOPIC BLATHERING
by hkraemer＠prismac.co.nz 17 May '01

17 May '01

Is that Gau_leiter or Gaul_Eiter (...sorry couldn't resist) -----Original Message----- From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] Sent: Friday, 18 May 2001 13:56 To: Peter Mott Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: RE: SPAM & OFF TOPIC BLATHERING On Fri, 18 May 2001, Peter Mott wrote: > I can donate nznog-discuss(a)2day.com as long as somebody else wants to be the > list admin (not that it needs much!) What are you using? Mailman I hope? Just finished setting up a list server for IDG, so I could volunteer to be the list-Gauleiter... -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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TelstraSaturn subscriber with Autospammer^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hresponder set to NZNOG
by Juha Saarinen 17 May '01

17 May '01

Could someone at TSNZ kindly turn off Suzanne Wecke's autoresponder? Also, having a postmaster(a)telstrasaturn.co.nz account might be a good idea: The message that you sent was undeliverable to the following: postmaster(a)[172.20.18.38] (user not found) Possibly truncated original message follows: -- Juha The malformed orange Fails to satisfy the eye: Segmentation fault. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Fun with IOS
by Lindsay Druett 17 May '01

17 May '01

Yeah...Righto Rog...!!! In peak hour traffic too... Why not !!?? > Anyone know of any magical IOS commands to kill -9 a process? :) Someone's > managed to crash a couple of sessions on a router here while they're > holding a lock on the nvram. Ahh. You want the "reload" command. However you may find that the "reload" feature is unavailable in your current version of IOS as it is a restricted feature set. Please upgrade to 12.2(1)XD. Cheers. James Tyson --- Samizdat New Media Solutions --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Telecom Peering - Query
by Steve Phillips 16 May '01

16 May '01

Hiya, After bailing our Telecom account manager up about the latest excuse as to why Telecom are not willing to peer, it came back that the Tax Dept are claiming that the people peering at APE are committing tax fraud due to the traffic traveling across the APE link having a real dollar value associated with it. Telecom claim that the Tax Dept have contacted everyone about this issue and that we should all be paying each other for the privilege of peering in order to recover the costs associated with traffic across APE. Then each of us should be paying GST on the traffic to/from each of our peers. Can anyone out there verify this latest myth ? :-) We are apparently going to get an answer to this latest problem within the next 90 min's, I wonder what the next excuse will be.. To date (since I took over from Tony on the "beatup the account manager about peering" a few weeks ago) I have had: * There are legal issues * There is a contract you need to sign which we cant show you as Telstra and Clear said it was rubbish * We have the connectivity up there but are not allowed to use it yet (ironically this was a few hours after the post showing the interface traffic stats) * We are considering dropping the domestic service offering as it's not viable * The tax dept wont allow us (or anyone else) to peer as they require us to pay GST on the traffic I must say, if nothing else its entertaining watching the excuses.. -- Steve. --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Fun with IOS
by Lindsay Druett 15 May '01

15 May '01

:: Seriously, the only reason anyone would want this slow crap is that it's :: all the telcos want to provide because they've got this huge legacy :: investment in that technology and most of the people working in them have :: their heads too far up their asses. Remember when ISDN stood for :: Incredibly Slow Dumb Networking - that label now applies to this. Hey come on, Legacy is good.... as long as it comes on four wheels, powered by a boxer motor which powers all four wheels.... --------- To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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