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Re: [nznog] "What's the hourly price for a /24?"
by Scott Weeks 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

--- jlaundry(a)jlaundry.com wrote: From: Jed Laundry <jlaundry(a)jlaundry.com> Pardon my ignorance of the APNIC list discussions, but is the point to: 1. allow /24s to be used by different ASes for short periods of time to handle peak demands? I can only think of mobile IP providers in different timezones being a "sensible" example of this. 2. to allow ASes to claim a need for addresses based on short term customer uses? This is an edge case; I've run a couple of events where I needed a /26 for a weekend, which was taken from the provider's existing pool. 3. to mark addresses as leased (i.e. cloud servers) to avoid blacklist hell for the next poor unfortunate soul to use them? (glhf?) ------------------------------------------------------- You forgot 4. to spam. Sorta like hourly rates at a motel... >;-) scott _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Refurb Cisco Kit (inside) in NZ
by Skeeve Stevens 02 Oct '13

02 Oct '13

Hi, Could some people sell Refurbished Cisco kit in NZ contact me, or someone give me some contacts. I'm hoping for someone who is already in NZ so I can have to deal with the extra costs of import duties, shipping, risk, etc. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud

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"What's the hourly price for a /24?"
by Dean Pemberton 01 Oct '13

01 Oct '13

Hi All, The subject line is a question I posed to Geoff Huston years ago in response to us both musing what the price to purchase address space would be. I suggested that if it really got that bad, people would be asking about leasing by the hour rather than buying outright. That time looks to be upon us. While not explicitly allowed, nor disallowed by APNIC policy, IP address leasing is becoming a hot topic of discussion on relevant APNIC lists. Should it be allowed? Should it be disallowed? It it were disallowed would that actually stop it? What mechanisms need to be in place to keep it sane? A 'whowas' server for eg Should someone be able to be allocated addresses under a needs based policy just so they can make money leasing them? Does leasing addresses mean that you no longer need them? Should you be required to return the ? These and many more issues are questions I'd like you all to give me feed back on. This topic will come up in APRICOT 2014 in Thailand. I'd like to know a lot more about what you all think about it before I take the mic. Regards Dean -- -- Dean Pemberton Technical Policy Advisor InternetNZ +64 21 920 363 (mob) dean(a)internetnz.net.nz To protect and promote the Internet for New Zealand.

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Speaking of IPv6
by Juha Saarinen 01 Oct '13

01 Oct '13

$ host -6 -v list.waikato.ac.nz Trying "list.waikato.ac.nz" ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached $ host list.waikato.ac.nz list.waikato.ac.nz has address 130.217.66.63 list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 400 list.waikato.ac.nz.s200b2.psmtp.com. list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 100 list.waikato.ac.nz.s200a1.psmtp.com. list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 200 list.waikato.ac.nz.s200a2.psmtp.com. list.waikato.ac.nz mail is handled by 300 list.waikato.ac.nz.s200b1.psmtp.com. -- Juha Saarinen twitter: juhasaarinen

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UFB Right Performing
by Jonathon Exley 01 Oct '13

01 Oct '13

Hi all, Chorus have been developing new UFB service templates through the Right Performing process. The main focus has been on increasing burst sizes to permit better TCP performance, and a corresponding relaxation of the delay and jitter SLA. The latest version has been submitted to the TCF for approval this week. Just in case you don't participate in the TCF, you can download a copy from https://db.tt/RgaqMjYL. If you have any comments/abuse please share them (but don't hassle me about the maths - I didn't write it) [cid:image001.jpg(a)01CEBF8D.35452160] Jonathon Exley Network Specialist Layer 2 T +64 4 498 5602 M +64 27 514 8048 E jonathon.exley(a)chorus.co.nz Level 3, Deloitte House, 10 Brandon Street P O Box 632, Wellington www.chorus.co.nz<http://www.chorus.co.nz> Aon Hewitt Best Employer in Australasia 2013 P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________ This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002.

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Wellington OpenStack meet up tonight
by Andrew Ruthven 29 Sep '13

29 Sep '13

Hey, Is it the last Monday of the month already?! Time for the second OpenStack users group meeting in Wellington! For this meetup we'll have Bruno Lago from Catalyst IT doing an overview of OpenStack. He will describe all the core projects and show them working from the Horizon interface, command line tools and APIs. The Q&A session is an excellent opportunity for people to clarify their questions and share ideas with other OpenStackers. Where? Level 3, Catalyst House, 150 Willis St Time? 6pm, presentation starting at 6:30pm The front door locks at 6pm, but we'll have a sign down there with a contact phone number. Due to popular demand, an Auckland group is in the works. Cheers! -- Andrew Ruthven Wellington, New Zealand At home: andrew(a)etc.gen.nz | linux.conf.au 2014 | Come swan on the Swan River | http://linux.conf.au

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Re: [nznog] Mail admins for dmzglobal, yahoo and ihug
by Robert 27 Sep '13

27 Sep '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi Don, I saw you were looking for admins for iHug/Vodafone/TCL. Give me a shout I will be able to help you with that. Regards, Rob. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.20 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJSRnBBAAoJELLoL7phT5laZbAP/i2GWO7aR0nhNK2TwTQU2Nyj G+SQl/sCFBsRJvht91Axi30ChUL6yeohxqyqxuEXkyaPe/mVC3VC1QvdNR6Vw72o QpQVKTv5oiCz/D2ZBp6X7BB2CwA4Qfzx+wm0eCX+UdxFwsfMu4aMsIqsCSZ6FQiO i+x6KxAKqUsG/C3i5yPDXcKl848kbuAPpbk1RAaZCGr4kYI/k7DmXYfR+4r9C05L HaIBmHNuqYFHX4zyBM0ZmH9S5R3ZwVQX/WejUWZFnrM01+GPsmeYKra8pIdbd9cH zwiJFW7i7lFl2+UyNU3v/L6Em3ukBL7Z63+nVPj94Mzs9rHXsYNOHMnsRaVP6IqG /1gVNsXtm4Dedfrc6FeC8CBTLfpGpJpiv1V0kJQT/deBXh+TJNFCDEi9MWN3kKww FSzhzIJU6CLZnRTkKO4rPlViID5C6bwiJHAHe2Y/GUMm+TmKWZm+k+8AKu3RXozv OYvOvsQTgfHoUwjbTiGtQP8EGElIB8CAZqze1luHSoJEWWkMLWCP0+wuWw/Gryp/ 7cVKUdm1feFcBzkPsQ8HkGEah5P8r1qQ93WvtkOzJ9XQF3TWUb8XiKYGyCvB+5YR bp5mFdfsOAJWPM6/EkFjCA5WzrS4+6WUZM7wRn+m9+owp0ESgJajy++zCFsRaPn0 O7C8yRlZ0Elw/hDmulOu =6Gqc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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TelstraVodaHug core lag
by Matthew Poole 23 Sep '13

23 Sep '13

Hi all Breaking with recent tradition and discussing something related to the operation of the NZ tubes... My employer has a TVH business fibre connection, and since around midnight Saturday/Sunday the latency to 8.8.8.8 (one of my Smokeping test subjects) has been consistently > 160ms. mtr tells me: |------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | WinMTR statistics | | Host - % | Sent | Recv | Best | Avrg | Wrst | Last | |------------------------------------------------|------|------|------|------|------|------| | firewall - 0 | 124 | 124 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | | 203.167.222.5 - 1 | 120 | 119 | 0 | 2 | 51 | 51 | | ge-0-2-0-1.xcore1.acld.telstraclear.net - 0 | 124 | 124 | 0 | 3 | 62 | 1 | |ge-0-2-0-914.xcore2.acld.telstraclear.net - 0 | 124 | 124 | 0 | 3 | 48 | 2 | | gi1-2.akl-grafton-bdr2.ihug.net - 0 | 124 | 124 | 1 | 2 | 29 | 11 | | No response from host - 100 | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | tu20232901.akl-grafton-core1.ihug.net - 0 | 124 | 124 | 129 | 132 | 192 | 164 | | 209.85.249.5 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 176 | 178 | 242 | 200 | | 209.85.250.63 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 176 | 187 | 252 | 195 | | 72.14.232.63 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 181 | 183 | 246 | 199 | | 72.14.233.200 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 189 | 191 | 251 | 213 | | 216.239.48.165 - 0 | 124 | 124 | 179 | 182 | 244 | 197 | | No response from host - 100 | 24 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | | google-public-dns-a.google.com - 0 | 124 | 124 | 179 | 183 | 246 | 200 | |________________________________________________|______|______|______|______|______|______| The sudden latency jump at akl-grafton-core1.ihug.net kinda leaps out. Is anyone else seeing this? And is this something that the TVH admins are aware of? Please don't make me deal with helpdesk! Cheers -- Matthew Poole "The difference between theory and practice is that practice is easier in theory than theory is in practice"

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Email Evolution: 40 years of changing engines in mid-flight
by Brian E Carpenter 19 Sep '13

19 Sep '13

May be of interest if in Auckland on 14/10... City campus = University of Auckland Symonds St/Princes St 303-561 = seminar room on top floor of Computer Science -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Computer Science Staff] Advance notice of October's Departmental Seminar - NOTE Occurs on a MONDAY not on regular day!!!!! Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 12:35:53 +1200 From: Mike Barley <mbar098(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> Reply-To: Mike Barley <mbar098(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> To: <staff(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> CC: Mike Barley <mbar098(a)cs.auckland.ac.nz> Advance Departmental Seminar Announcement Title: Email Evolution: 40 years of changing engines in mid-flight Time: Monday, 14 October, 12:00 - 1:00 Venue: City campus, room 303-561 Speaker: Dave Crocker Affiliation: Brandenburg InternetWorking Host: Brian Carpenter Abstract: The first networked email was sent 42 years ago. Surprisingly, messages from the early 70s look similar to the basic text email we send today. In fact, the current Internet Mail service has been in continuous operation longer than the Internet, with such enhancements as addressing, multi-media and security, while growing from a few hundred users to a few billion. Email is the ultimate distributed application and one of the few true peer-to-peer services on the Internet. The talk with explore this history, successful approaches for making major architectural enhancements while preserving an installed base, and current challenges for global email use. Short Bio of Speaker: David H. Crocker is a principal with Brandenburg InternetWorking, developing network-based applications businesses and designing system architectures for them. Over the past 40 years he contributed to early Internet research, led product development efforts and founded several startups, serving as CEO for one. Dave created and operated two national email services, designed two others, and was CEO of a community non-profit ISP. His product, service and standards efforts cover knowledge management, email, instant messaging, facsimile and EDI, as well as Internet security, commerce, domain name service, emergency services, and even some TCP and IP enhancements. He has authored more than 50 Internet technical specification. Dave served as an Area Director for the Internet Engineering Task Force, variously overseeing network management, middleware and the IETF standards process, and has served on the IETF's administrative committee, as well as chairing a working group on reputation. He is also a senior adviser for the industry's Messaging Anti-Abuse Working Group and is on the board of the non-profit Trusted Domain Project. Dave is a co-recipient of the 2004 IEEE Internet award for his work on email. - Mike -- Regards Brian Carpenter http://orcid.org/0000-0001-7924-6182

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG Digest, Vol 129, Issue 1
by Jonathan Spence 17 Sep '13

17 Sep '13

Hi Paul,Thanks for the assistance and pointing out a glaringly obvious problem :S. NS records are all fixed but not seeing the delegation still. Should this happen now automatically or do Orcon still need to do something? I've now learnt how to use the Dig command but can't figure out how to trace it like in other posts. Thanks,Jonathan Jonathan Spence Chief Information Officer Mobile: +64-21-1055634 Work: +64-9-9503306 Web: power-business.co.nz The information contained in this message is privileged and intended only for the recipient names. If the reader is not a representative of the intended recipient, any review, dissemination or copying of this message or the information it contains is prohibited. Views expressed in this message may notnecessarily be those of Power Business Services Limited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender, and delete the original message and attachments. ---------------------------------------- From: nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 12:00 PM To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: NZNOG Digest, Vol 129, Issue 1 Send NZNOG mailing list submissions to nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz You can reach the person managing the list at nznog-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NZNOG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation (Jonathan Spence) 2. Re: Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation (Leo Vegoda) 3. Re: Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation (Paul Tinson) 4. Re: Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation (Paul Tinson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 02:08:47 +1200 From: "Jonathan Spence" <jonathan.spence(a)power-business.co.nz> To: <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: [nznog] Orcon IPv6 rDNS delegation Message-ID: <7d59cc8$6fc11687$642d0766$(a)xtracta.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone, Google have just started enforcing PTR records for IPv6 addresses delivering to Gmail. Our IPv6 works great with Orcon but having serious issues getting delegation back to our nameservers setup. I have been told a few times that everything is setup on their end but I don't think it is. Our IP space: 2400:4800:4017::/48 is meant to be sent to ns1.power-business.co.nz and ns2.power-business.co.nz. However it doesn't seem to. For example our website is:2400:4800:4017:200:250:56ff:fe90:82f If I query ns1.power-business.co.nz from my home computer is works fine: -----command----- C:\Users\Jonathan Spence>nslookup 2400:4800:4017:0200:0250:56ff:fe90:082f 60.234.77.213 Server: UnKnown Address: 60.234.77.213 Name: midas.power-business.co.nz Address: 2400:4800:4017:200:250:56ff:fe90:82f ------ end command ----- However other hosts don't resolve this. When using this tool it doesn't work failing when reaching Orcon's nameserver: http://www.simpledns.com/lookup-dg.aspx Can anyone comment? Thanks, Jonathan ------- output ------- Received referral response - DNS servers for "0.4.2.ip6.arpa": -> ns4.apnic.net (no IP address) -> apnic1.dnsnode.net (no IP address) -> ns3.apnic.net (no IP address) -> tinnie.arin.net (no IP address) -> ns2.lacnic.net (no IP address) -> sec1.authdns.ripe.net (no IP address) -> ns1.apnic.net (no IP address) ---------------------------------------- Attempting to resolve DNS server name "apnic1.dnsnode.net" (details not logged) ---------------------------------------- Resolved DNS server name "apnic1.dnsnode.net" to IP address 194.146.106.106 ---------------------------------------- Sending request to "apnic1.dnsnode.net" (194.146.106.106) ---------------------------------------- Received referral response - DNS servers for "0.0.8.4.0.0.4.2.ip6.arpa": -> ns1.orcon.net.nz (no IP address) -> ns2.orcon.net.nz (no IP address) ---------------------------------------- Attempting to resolve DNS server name "ns2.orcon.net.nz" (details not logged) ---------------------------------------- Resolved DNS server name "ns2.orcon.net.nz" to IP address 210.55.12.2 ---------------------------------------- Sending request to "ns2.orcon.net.nz" (210.55.12.2) ---------------------------------------- Received authoritative (AA) response: -> Header: Non-Existent Domain ----- end output ----- Jonathan Spence Chief Information Officer Mobile: +64-21-1055634 Work: +64-9-9503306 Web: power-business.co.nz The information contained in this message is privileged and intended only for the recipient names. If the reader is not a representative of the intended recipient, any review, dissemination or copying of this message or the information it contains is prohibited. Views expressed in this message may notnecessarily be those of Power Business Services Limited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately notify the sender, and delete the original message and attachments.

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