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Tui update - please accept my routes and give me free transit. No really. Please?
by Nathan Ward 03 May '08

03 May '08

Hello all, A few weeks back we were loaned 2 x /24s[1] and 2 x ASNs by APNIC R&D, big thanks to Geoff Huston. One ASN and /24 lives on the Tui route- server at APE, and the others on the Tui route-server at WIX. They are: - APE: AS24021 203.147.108.0/24 - WIX: AS45163 203.147.109.0/24 These /24s are used for the unit's 6to4 address, which is used for 2 things: - BGP peer address for remote Tui boxes. - Next hop for v6 routes from native exchange peers. These routes are only given to remote Tui boxes that are on networks that are visible from APE/WIX. The first Tui route-server has been installed by Andy on WIX today, we're looking to get the APE one in next week. If you are on WIX, can you please accept 203.147.109.0/24 from the WIX v4 route-servers. If you prefer private peering on the exchange we can do that too, drop me an email - nward(a)braintrust.co.nz. Same for the APE /24 next week. Now, that gets these two /24s visible to networks that are visible at APE/WIX, however that doesn't get us to networks that aren't. If you can see these two /24s, please transit them - ie. advertise them to your peers and transit providers. That let's networks that don't peer (for whatever reason) still use Tui boxes in their networks. If you transit these /24s, the only data you'll see going across your network to/from these networks is BGP traffic in 6to4. You won't see any actual data, just BGP control messages. The routing policy only gives next hops in these /24s if the remote Tui box is in a network visible to the exchange (in which case you won't transit packets for that network) - if it's not, it only gets information about other Tui boxes, and that data goes direct between Tui boxes. I've been trying to figure out how to explain this clearly in words.. hopefully that makes sense. I'll follow up with a picture if needed. In short - please accept and re-advertise those two /24s to your peers, customers, and internationally to help out this Tui project, they are very low traffic and only carry control data, I promise. We're talking kilobits per second here, so it's really nothing. Also, if you do transit them, please tell me so I can tell people all about how awesome you are, and buy you beer when I next see you. Big thanks go to InternetNZ for hardware and support, APNIC for v4 and ASNs, and Citylink for exchange connectivity, hardware, etc. -- Nathan Ward Braintrust Ltd. nward(a)braintrust.co.nz +64-21-431675 [1] - No, the irony of burning 2 /24s to help encourage v6 adoption is not lost on me :-)

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domain name nznog.org.nz
by Craig Whitmore 01 May '08

01 May '08

Hi there folks.. I've had "control" of the domain name nznog.org.nz for a quite a while ago after I retrieved it from the person who falsely registered it in 2003 (I'm not naming names but most of you know who it was). The question is.. at the moment it is not actually doing anything so does someone want it so they can use it with nznog as I'm thinking of just cancelling it at the moment. Thanks Craig

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Request for Feedback: Industry Best Practice Programme
by Keith Davidson 01 May '08

01 May '08

Hello all, InternetNZ seeks input from NZNOG on a proposed Industry Best Practice Programme that would develop and document a range of local Internet operational and technical best practice standards. A brief overview of the Industry Best Practice Programme was given to NZNOG conference attendees in January, and we are looking for further feedback on the proposal via the NOG mailing list. InternetNZ Industry Best Practice Programme The proposed 'InternetNZ Industry Best Practice Programme' aims to create a community of technical practice in New Zealand by encouraging collaboration between network and service operators in defining best practice standards. Technical best practice documents would be developed by small working groups. These would form flexible codes of practice relating to the New Zealand Internet, allowing ISP's, content providers and other Internet service companies to select an overall best fit for their business. For instance, a DoS Response/Containment document would likely define and outline what steps would be taken in New Zealand should a large scale denial of service attack occur here. Other examples of best practice documents could include: - Routing Registry Practices - Use of BGP communities - Mail Server Operations - Peering Practices - Phishing Response/Containment - Emergency Response (Security) - Natural Disaster Response - Datacentre Standards and Classification Participants are more than welcome to suggest other best practice document topics. Development Process InternetNZ is looking to finalise a few areas of the proposed development process listed below: Best practice documents specifying New Zealand ICT industry-accepted technical practices and processes would be drafted by working groups comprising two to four technical/industry experts. Note: Working group members can be drawn from a range of NZ-based online communities and industry organisations such as NZNOG, e-Government, the TCF and ISPANZ. Draft documents, and subsequent iterations, would be floated on the NZNOG mailing list for open debate and discussion, to achieve broad consensus and approval. Following consensus, finalised drafts would be published by InternetNZ as a best practice document and filed on a public website. InternetNZ would promote and publish the finalised best practice documents, and provide administrative and secretarial support. Development Incentives To encourage development of best practice documents InternetNZ would provide a yearly travel grant, awarded to members of the top four successful working groups that have had documents published. Travel would be earmarked for international travel to technical conferences, with the published best practice document being presented and/or compared with similar best practices from other countries. The InternetNZ Technical Policy Committee will select which documents are subject to a development incentive. Your feedback on this proposal is most welcome. We are particularly interested in your views on how broad consensus would be achieved via the NZNOG list, and suggested approaches for defining the top four best practice working groups. Feel free to contact me off list also. Regards, Keith Davidson Executive Director - InternetNZ

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. It consists of the subscribers to this mailing list. The group is intended to facilitate discussion among operators of networks in New Zealand on matters relevant to network operators as described in the list's Acceptable Use Policy. That policy appears later in this posting. Conference We hold New Zealand's only technical networking conference. See http://www.nznog.org/?page_id=4 for details of conferences from 2004 to 2008. Work is now under way in preparation for the next conference, to be held in the North Island in early 2009. Other Meetings See http://thursdaynightcurry.com/ if you live in or near Auckland, Hamilton or Wellington. Operators' Contact List See http://www.nznog.org/?page_id=6 for operational contact details for most New Zealand ISP's. These are intended for use by other network operators, not by most customers. Internet Exchanges See http://www.nzix.net/ for details of exchanges in operation. About This Mailing List This list has between 900 and 1000 addresses subscribed. You may only post to the list from a subscribed address. A number of people subscribe addresses which do not receive email purely to allow posting from them. You may choose to receive postings as they come in, or just to receive daily "digests". See the bottom of the page http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog/ to change the form in which you receive postings. The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by employees of APN Online, Citylink, and The University of Waikato. None of these organisations, nor any administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/nznog/ . Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrators remain happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. One way to search the archive is to use google and prefix your search with site:list.waikato.ac.nz . Subscribing to the List See http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog to subscribe. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins -- Donald Neal | "Careful design and strict discipline are Research Officer | necessary to prevent this sort of mess WAND | from escaping the development laboratory The University of Waikato | and infesting the production environment." | - D. Russell

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Kiwicon 2k8 - Call For Papers
by Simon Howard 30 Apr '08

30 Apr '08

[-------------------------------------------------------------------------] _.-.. __ .__ .__ ,'9 )\)`-.,.--. | | _|__|_ _ _|__| ____ ____ ____ 2k8 `-.| `. | |/ / \ \/ \/ / |/ ___\/ _ \ / \ \, , \) | <| |\ /| \ \__( <_> ) | \ `. )._\ (\ |__|_ \__| \/\_/ |__|\___ >____/|___| / |// `-,// \/ \/ \/ ]|| //" "" "" BAAAAAAaaaa!!11 [-------------------------------------------------------www.kiwicon.org---] Holy sheepshit, internets! Blanket-Man[1] has wrung out his loin cloth and is ready to fly-tackle more heavy metal t-shirt wearing nerds with large egos and irc handles. Yes, it's time to open up your ~/haxing folder and get your talk together for Kiwicon 2k8! We've put out the black t-shirts, and deflated some satellite radomes, so where, as our more criminal yet fetchingly bikini clad cousins might say, the bloody hell are you? The Kiwicon Crüe is proud to announce the call for presenters for the second installment of New Zealand's very own security conference: Kiwicon 2k8. [About] Kiwicon2k8 is intended to be an informal conference, drawing on the wider security community of Australia and New Zealand. It will be held in Wellington, New Zealand, on the weekend of the 27th and 28th of September, 2008. Kiwicon's focus is on sharing information; ideas, code, and good whisky, in a rabelaisan carnival of security, nerdery, and *nix beards. Last year, the inaugural Kiwicon ended up being kind of a big deal: highlights included tmasky's mighty Crackstation, the debut of Beau Butler as an "ethical hacker" making Microsoft "look like turkeys", and of course the Kiwicon Hax0r Quiz, with the winner taking the grand prize of An Illustrated Guide to the Commoner Skin Diseases. Hope it came in handy for the post-con diagnosis phase, dude. This year, Kiwicon's own Bogan is already making anti-virus vendors quake in their little signature-laden booties at Defcon's Race to Zero, and the cauldron of 0h-0h-0hday in Brett Moore's secret Insomnia lair is bubbling over with pernicious brew. If you missed last Kiwicon (not "professional enough"? couldn't convince your boss it wasn't a hoax?) then find one of the 230+ people who were there and ask them if they're just-not-gonna-bother this year. [Venue] Our hosts for the weekend will, once again, be Victoria University of Wellington. If you have any memory of last year's Kiwicon, then it'll look disturbingly familiar. The campus has the advantage of being close to the center of the city and its' various amenities. This includes cheap accommodation, good coffee, and, more importantly, several good pubs serving good, non-Australian, beer. [Costs] Kiwicon2k8 is a non-profit, non-commercial, non-corporate-funded event. Attendance for the entire weekend will cost $50 for employed individuals (self-employed and salaried). There is a discounted rate of $30 for students and the unemployed. GST receipts can be issued upon request. If your management can't be convinced of the value of something that only costs $50, we're happy to issue you with some kind of personalised limited edition invitation in crayon, glitter pen, and macaroni (spray-painted gold for that luxe look) for the low enterprise-only price of $500. [Topics] Suggested topics include but are not limited to: - Crowd Control Techniques and Panic Modeling - Information Warfare / Industrial Espionage - Malware (Viruses, Spam, Phishing, Botnets) - Cellular Networks (GSM,GPRS,CDMA,3G,4G) - Application Security, Testing, Fuzzing - Government Spy Networks / Surveillance - Nanotechnology / Quantum Computing - Access Control and Authentication - Wireless / Bluetooth / Infrared - Social Engineering / Trolling - Breaking EAL Certified Kit - Forensics / Antiforensics - Banking / ATMs / Carding - Exploitation Techniques - Layer 1/2/3 Nastiness - Reverse Engineering - Phreaking / VoIP - Virtualisation - Web Security - Lockpicking - Biometrics - Hypnosis - Crypto - Ohday - 23 There is no pre-determined talk length but we ask that speakers limit their presentation to an hour, including some question time. Since Kiwicon is a non-profit organisation, there is no funding available for travel and/or accomodation, even for IT rockstars. However, if your talk is accepted, a formal letter will be provided for employer leverage, and almost certainly, unless you're a complete jackoff, people will try and buy you beer. To submit a presentation to Kiwicon2k8, send an email to cfp(a)kiwicon.org with the following information: Name or Handle: Country of Residence: Employer (if applicable): Presentation Title: Presentation Length: Presentation Synopsis: Brief Bio: [CFP Submissions] Please submit your CFP by email to cfp(a)kiwicon.org, no later than 8:47pm NZST, Sunday 17th August 2008. There will be two rounds of selection, with the first half of the talks chosen in early August, so submit early for a better chance of acceptance. [Contacts & Further Information] Email us: kiwicon(a)kiwicon.org Check the site: http://www.kiwicon.org/ Drop by silc: silc.isig.org.nz:2706/kiwicon Join the list: kiwicon-subscribe(a)lists.isig.org.nz Greetz and thanks to all who helped make Kiwicon 2k7 the awesomeness it was, we'll see you fuckers again this year. Thick, meaty props to Pipes for stepping up and making 2k7 happen. We would miss you, but Sharrow's just as tall, and better looking. Sorry pal. -- The Kiwicon Crüe, 2k8 - Bogan, Metlstorm & Sharrow. \m/ [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Hana

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Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland
by Mark Newton 24 Apr '08

24 Apr '08

Hi. I'm after some information about carrier-neutral colocation in the Auckland area in New Zealand. I'd be looking at installing a rack worth of equipment, consuming a couple of kW of power at most. It'd need to be in a facility that's well- serviced by TNZ, TelstraClear or Vector Communications; But preferably able to interconnect with arbitrary other carriers so that we can provide our Australian business/corporate/wholesale customers with IP and MPLS access to their NZ offices (or vice versa) with minimal obstacles. Nearby availability of peering exchanges would be a definite plus. AS4739 has a fairly promiscuous peering policy, and we prefer bilateral peering relationships outside Australia, but MPLA works for us too if it's easy. I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to the New Zealand "scene". If anyone feels inspired to send me some off-list information or advice, I'd appreciate it. Regards, - mark -- Mark Newton Email: newton(a)internode.com.au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton(a)atdot.dotat.org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82282999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223

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Re: [nznog] Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland (MRN)
by Marc Richard Nienkemper 23 Apr '08

23 Apr '08

Hi Mark, I've sent you a message off-list. Cheers, MRN -----Original Message----- From: nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 12:00 PM To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: NZNOG Digest, Vol 64, Issue 11 Send NZNOG mailing list submissions to nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz You can reach the person managing the list at nznog-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of NZNOG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland (Mark Newton) 2. Re: Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland (Jonathan Brewer) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:14:42 +0930 From: Mark Newton <newton(a)internode.com.au> Subject: [nznog] Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Message-ID: <177FDD80-E69B-4CCD-BA6E-BC2A532113F5(a)internode.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Hi. I'm after some information about carrier-neutral colocation in the Auckland area in New Zealand. I'd be looking at installing a rack worth of equipment, consuming a couple of kW of power at most. It'd need to be in a facility that's well- serviced by TNZ, TelstraClear or Vector Communications; But preferably able to interconnect with arbitrary other carriers so that we can provide our Australian business/corporate/wholesale customers with IP and MPLS access to their NZ offices (or vice versa) with minimal obstacles. Nearby availability of peering exchanges would be a definite plus. AS4739 has a fairly promiscuous peering policy, and we prefer bilateral peering relationships outside Australia, but MPLA works for us too if it's easy. I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to the New Zealand "scene". If anyone feels inspired to send me some off-list information or advice, I'd appreciate it. Regards, - mark -- Mark Newton Email: newton(a)internode.com.au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton(a)atdot.dotat.org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82282999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2008 07:29:41 +1200 From: "Jonathan Brewer" <jon.brewer(a)araneo.net.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland To: <NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <20080423192935.AB9153E0010(a)mx1.its.waikato.ac.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Mark, It's hard to beat Sky Tower if you want a facility that's well serviced by New Zealand telecommunications providers. All the providers are there in some way or another. APE and F-Root servers are there. The tower managers, JDA, are not related to any of the carriers, so they're as neutral as you can get. Drawbacks are fairly limited and relatively expensive floor space and cooling options. Good for routers and switches, maybe not so good for blade servers or high-density, high heat applications. Cheers, Jon www.araneo.net.nz -----Original Message----- From: Mark Newton [mailto:newton(a)internode.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, 23 April 2008 11:45 p.m. To: NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Carrier-neutral colo and peering in Auckland Hi. I'm after some information about carrier-neutral colocation in the Auckland area in New Zealand. I'd be looking at installing a rack worth of equipment, consuming a couple of kW of power at most. It'd need to be in a facility that's well- serviced by TNZ, TelstraClear or Vector Communications; But preferably able to interconnect with arbitrary other carriers so that we can provide our Australian business/corporate/wholesale customers with IP and MPLS access to their NZ offices (or vice versa) with minimal obstacles. Nearby availability of peering exchanges would be a definite plus. AS4739 has a fairly promiscuous peering policy, and we prefer bilateral peering relationships outside Australia, but MPLA works for us too if it's easy. I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to the New Zealand "scene". If anyone feels inspired to send me some off-list information or advice, I'd appreciate it. Regards, - mark -- Mark Newton Email: newton(a)internode.com.au (W) Network Engineer Email: newton(a)atdot.dotat.org (H) Internode Systems Pty Ltd Desk: +61-8-82282999 "Network Man" - Anagram of "Mark Newton" Mobile: +61-416-202-223 _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog End of NZNOG Digest, Vol 64, Issue 11 *************************************

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Contracts and FX Networks
by Andrew Hooper 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

I would be interested to know if any of the small operators have successfully negotiated a contract with FX Networks and how was your experience from the negotiation to implementation? Andrew Hooper www.bushwireless.com <http://www.bushwireless.com/> +64 9 533-6470 +64 21 212-9200 broadband for those hard to reach places. <skype:bushwireless?call> My status <http://www.skype.com/go/download> Get Skype and call me for free.

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Invitation to APNIC 26
by Elly Tawhai 21 Apr '08

21 Apr '08

Hi NZNOG Community, For those who do not know the next APNIC meeting will be held in Christchurch, New Zealand on 25-29 August 2008. ________________________________________________________________________ Why your organisation should be represented at APNIC 26? ________________________________________________________________________ It is our pleasure to invite your organisation to attend the APNIC 26 meeting a week of workshops, tutorials, policy and operational discussions, and social events. Attending APNIC 26 will enable your organisation to: - Have your say on policy proposals that directly affect the way your organisation accesses Internet number resources; or, you can present your own proposals - Hear world-class speakers discuss cutting edge Internet resource management research such as IPv6 transition and network security - Learn about best practice in Internet resource management to make your business more efficient and profitable - Make valuable contacts for building business relationships When: 25-29 August 2008 Venue: Christchurch Convention Centre, Christchurch, New Zealand For more information about APNIC 26 and how you can participate, please see: http://www.apnic.net/meetings/26 Hope to see you there! Kind regards, Elly ________________________________________________________________________ Elly Tawhai email: hostmaster(a)apnic.net Senior Internet Resource Analyst, APNIC sip: hostmaster(a)voip.apnic.net http://www.apnic.net/helpdesk phone: +61 7 3858 3188 fax: +61 7 3858 3199 ________________________________________________________________________

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 14 Apr '08

14 Apr '08

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS10200 descr: advertised to AS9560 by NetSmart Ltd - AS10200 members: 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: paul(a)netsmart.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060306 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS10200 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Netsmart Ltd - AS10200 members: 124.248.128.0/20^20-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: shaun(a)netsmart.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20080415 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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