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Re: [nznog] Xtra Mail Admin Contact Off List re White List - Reporting back
by Don Gould 16 Dec '07

16 Dec '07

This is a quick round up of my earlier post for those who are interested in these issues. It is provided for information, not to troll for a flame :) I got hold of Ted. Following a half dozen pointless emails, he confirmed today that the shared server I'm using is in the Yahoo! block list. Yahoo! run a 'voting' system that counts messages users put in to their spam folder from different locations and blocks those sites. HOW TO FIX THE PROBLEM Ted expressed that I needed to ensure that our shared service is filtering for spam, before auto forwarding, then apply to have the server block removed. http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/postmaster/defer.html MY CONSIDERED ISSUES Frankly I suspect that this may be pointless. I know that the shared server is used to host a number of applications that can be hacked (eg poorly written Joomla components) and used to leverage the sending of spam. I suspect that if I get it removed from the Yahoo! block list this week then I'll have to start over again next week as I do not have control over the rest of the server. I'd like to thank the person who suggested I contact Ted. I got the clear impression (and I mean 'impression') that he's as frustrated with the whole email thing as the rest of us. He referred me to many pages on the Yahoo! web site that were incomplete and did little to explain clearly how to fix these sort of problems. Frankly by the end of the week I felt very stone walled. FINAL OUTCOME / RECOMMENDATIONS You may recall the purpose of the 'auto forwarding' was to save the 27 users from having to reconfigure their client software. I have now told them that they do not have this option. They have to set up their mail client to read from the server and/or pay someone else to do it or use our web mail interface. So much for trying to same someone some hassle. We are also having ongoing problems with email messages taking time to exit Xtra's/Yahoo!'s mail system and getting delivered. I've expressed that they should change providers to a smaller firm who have a more reliable system that is not quite so subject to the load issues that a mail provider such as Yahoo! has. I'm sure it will come as no surprise that despite explaining this to the users, only 2 of the 30 users have change provider. I should have thought that 2 months free service, your own account manager and email delivered in seconds, would have been enough to entice the users to change - I was wrong. Cheers and thanks to everyone for their help, especially Ted! Merry Christmas, Don Blair Robson wrote: > I don't have a clue about whether this is true or not, but it was my > understanding that Xtra had some sort of deal with 3rd party mail > services such as http://www.smartmail.co.nz/ that exempted them from > the standard mail policies for a regular user.. (thereforn avoiding > problems like this... > > On 28/11/2007, *Brian Gibbons* <brian(a)outersite.co.nz > <mailto:brian(a)outersite.co.nz>> wrote: > > > >From: "Steve Phillips" <steve(a)focb.co.nz <mailto:steve(a)focb.co.nz>> > > I guess people have short attention spans here ;-) > > > > (Don, if you search the archives for posts from Ted Grenfell - > last one > > dated 7-12-2006, you should find his contact details) > > I think we all tried that.... > > Xtra no longer exist, they are a brand of Telecom and if you contact > Xtra(Ted) about this problem they/he will "refer" you to Yahoo who > are now > the provider of the service > > This is a bit like taking a product back to The Warehouse and being > told to > send it back to China yourself. A service company would take > ownership of > the problem. Xtra has not. > > By now I would expect an "Xtra" procedure for whitelisting a .nz server > (sorry Ted but this is a big time waster). > > Cheers > > BG > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > This e-mail message has passed virus scanning by Outersite Technology. > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz <mailto:NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > -- Don Gould 2/59 Peverel Street, Riccarton, Christchurch, New Zealand Phone: +64 3 348 7235 - Mobile: +64 21 114 0699 www.thinkdesignprint.co.nz

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RT users in NZ
by Nathan Ward 13 Dec '07

13 Dec '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hi all, I'm trying to convince a customer of mine that RT (Request Tracker, the ticketing system) is the way to go for ticketing for their organisation. The question has come up (as it always does for open source applications) of what the installed base in NZ is. Obviously this is hard to gauge, as there's no licensing etc. as there is for commercial solutions. So, are you using RT, or are you aware of people using RT, in anger in NZ today? (Private reply is fine) (Yep, I realise it's not hugely on topic, but an ISP list seems like it's have lots of RT users on it) - -- Nathan Ward -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.7.0 (Build 867) Charset: US-ASCII wsBVAwUBR2DSmqhXB4ariYS3AQgTPwf/QjGiQJWytZRDiN2dbVkjRn6Is9V0WMNE IpOXwnfu+1FxoFjyUIpzQKsWeALZBWbhoNBJEJgR7VNyBrmUjAdDvgW7svGFDkaI TaYm3cy4rufgxInjZpbh2Hn3nGWNzyXWtSoXA7DGaT2Xk0K3H4tqyhS6H0a+HL+T L3dfgPErxZmeoXd5vnO4rsRN61n8g0wKW24AgZYD09C8vfSM3tcSxpdRdY6KJ0dK m5vwHFXNcX3wo40r33/dYW4jwzN2ZOzOYS2qvfJuJ4Cs8tB+DePMUb//V1LyOSyV PkOKyXo5Cf9w7sVX7hd5aI8xKDoe7aqW5+vgfqkC45PkyzS2s8L5Hw== =IPrU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [nznog] RT users in NZ
by Ewen McNeill 12 Dec '07

12 Dec '07

In message <CE64FCF2-B49B-4A44-98B1-1DD4B81AB3BD(a)daork.net>, Nathan Ward writes: >So, are you using RT, or are you aware of people using RT, in anger in >NZ today? (Private reply is fine) I'm aware of three NZ ISPs (or ISP-like) organisations using RT for their ticketing system, at least one with moderately extensive customisations. As well as at least two other NZ organisations using RT for their internal task management.[0] My impression is that it's one of the most widely deployed open source task tracking systems outside development projects.[1] <subliminal>I'd be keen for someone to talk about ticketing systems and ticket triage/management at the Sysadmin Miniconf</subliminal> Ewen [0] I support some of these RT installs, but by no means all of them. [1] Developers tend to use Bugzilla or DebBugs or similar. Bugzilla in particular doesn't seem as nice to interact with as RT.

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 12 Dec '07

12 Dec '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17746 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Orcon Internet Ltd - AS17746 members: 60.234.0.0/16^16-29, 121.98.0.0/16^16-29, 156.62.0.0/16^16-29, 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 203.99.0.0/19^19-29, 203.96.192.0/20^20-29, 219.88.128.0/20^20-29, 219.88.240.0/20^20-29, 116.199.208.0/21^21-29, 210.54.56.0/21^21-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 210.54.148.0/22^22-29, 210.55.12.0/22^22-29, 202.37.82.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.37.19.0/24^24-29, 202.37.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.233.0/24^24-29, 202.49.246.0/24^24-29, 202.50.167.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.95.250.0/24^24-29, 202.174.160.0/24^24-29, 203.86.200.0/24^24-29, 210.54.12.0/24^24-29, 210.55.1.0/24^24-29, 210.55.8.0/24^24-29, 210.55.199.0/24^24-29, 202.27.188.128/25^25-29, 210.55.0.0/25^25-29, 210.55.180.128/26^26-29, 210.55.193.64/27^27-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: ricky.tipper(a)team.orcon.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20071029 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS17746 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Orcon Internet Ltd - AS17746 members: 60.234.0.0/16^16-29, 156.62.0.0/16^16-29, 202.150.96.0/19^19-29, 203.99.0.0/19^19-29, 203.96.192.0/20^20-29, 219.88.128.0/20^20-29, 219.88.240.0/20^20-29, 116.199.208.0/21^21-29, 210.54.56.0/21^21-29, 202.127.8.0/22^22-29, 210.54.148.0/22^22-29, 210.55.12.0/22^22-29, 202.37.82.0/23^23-29, 202.175.142.0/23^23-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 192.203.216.0/24^24-29, 202.27.77.0/24^24-29, 202.36.170.0/24^24-29, 202.37.19.0/24^24-29, 202.37.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.194.0/24^24-29, 202.49.187.0/24^24-29, 202.49.233.0/24^24-29, 202.49.246.0/24^24-29, 202.50.167.0/24^24-29, 202.50.246.0/24^24-29, 202.174.160.0/24^24-29, 203.86.200.0/24^24-29, 210.54.12.0/24^24-29, 210.55.1.0/24^24-29, 210.55.8.0/24^24-29, 210.55.199.0/24^24-29, 202.27.188.128/25^25-29, 210.55.0.0/25^25-29, 210.55.180.128/26^26-29, 210.55.193.64/27^27-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: ricky.tipper(a)team.orcon.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20071213 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZNOG 2008 - Don't forget to register!
by Jonny Martin 11 Dec '07

11 Dec '07

Hi All, The NZNOG 2008 program has been largely finalised. The PC have done a great job providing a topical program with a great line up of both international and local speakers. Highlights are our keynote speakers, Geoff Huston, Philip Smith, and Bill Manning, alongside many fresh local presenters and a number of NZNOG regulars. APNIC and Team Cymru are providing a hands-on security tutorial on the Wednesday, alongside BGP and IPv6 tutorials and the popular Sysadmin Miniconf. Some tutorials are space limited and will be filled on a first-in basis. Full program details are available at: http://conference.nznog.org/conferenceprogramme.html In addition there are several co-located meetings taking place, with REANNZ, InternetNZ, and ISPANZ all holding meetings alongside NZNOG. There are now even more good reasons for you to come on down to Dunedin for NZNOG 2008. Numbers for the conference need to be finalised soon, so please register NOW! Cheers, Jonny.

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS24324 descr: advertised to AS9560 by Kordia - AS24324 members: 124.157.64.0/19^19-29, 58.84.224.0/20^20-29, 116.89.224.0/20^20-29, 118.82.176.0/20^20-29, 202.56.32.0/20^20-29, 202.68.80.0/20^20-29, 203.144.32.0/20^20-29, 117.104.176.0/21^21-29, 202.20.0.0/21^21-29, 202.49.16.0/21^21-29, 202.49.128.0/21^21-29, 202.56.48.0/21^21-29, 202.137.240.0/21^21-29, 218.185.224.0/21^21-29, 202.27.88.0/23^23-29, 202.65.160.0/23^23-29, 202.174.190.0/23^23-29, 203.110.28.0/23^23-29, 192.173.17.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.27.90.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.137.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.49.158.0/24^24-29, 202.49.183.0/24^24-29, 203.171.4.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: smc(a)kordia.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20070918 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS24324 descr: advertised to AS9560 by KOrdia Ltd. - AS24324 members: 118.148.0.0/15^15-29, 124.157.64.0/19^19-29, 58.84.224.0/20^20-29, 116.89.224.0/20^20-29, 202.56.32.0/20^20-29, 202.68.80.0/20^20-29, 203.144.32.0/20^20-29, 117.104.176.0/21^21-29, 202.20.0.0/21^21-29, 202.49.16.0/21^21-29, 202.49.128.0/21^21-29, 202.56.48.0/21^21-29, 202.137.240.0/21^21-29, 218.185.224.0/21^21-29, 202.27.88.0/23^23-29, 202.65.160.0/23^23-29, 202.174.190.0/23^23-29, 203.110.28.0/23^23-29, 192.173.17.0/24^24-29, 202.21.130.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.27.90.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.137.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.173.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.197.0/24^24-29, 202.49.158.0/24^24-29, 202.49.183.0/24^24-29, 203.171.4.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: smc(a)kordia.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20071211 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG Digest, Vol 60, Issue 6
by Tim Rowe 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

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WLG Power Woes
by Jonathan Brewer 10 Dec '07

10 Dec '07

Hi Folks, >From the amount of up/down alerts I've seen from monitored subscriber sites in the past couple of minutes, I'd say the Wellington grid is experiencing some significant issues right now. Regards, Jonathan Brewer -------------------------------- Araneo Limited 232A Left Bank 116 Cuba Street Wellington 6011 ph: 04 978 7350 fx: 04 978 7355 mb: 021 345 054 www.araneo.net.nz <http://www.araneo.net.nz/> --------------------------------

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Significant power outage in Wellington
by Simon Blake 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

Power to a good chunk of central Wellington went out around 3:58pm this afternoon. Seems to be between Customhouse Quay and Courtenay Place, we've seen at least these buildings down: -- Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:15:22 +1300 Subject: tentative list of power affected sites Willbank House (57 Willis St) BDO House, 99-105 Customhouse Quay Guardian Trust House (15 Willeston St) Cigna House (28-48 Mercer St) Economous Building/Hibernian House (4 Bond St) Perpetual Trust House (111-115 Customhouse Quay) Computerland House (154 Featherston St) Todd Building (95 Customhouse Quay, cnr Customhouse and Hunter) Synergy House (Queens Wharf) Optimation House (1-13 Grey St) HP Tower/Hotel Intercontinental (163-175 Featherston St) Lumley House (3-11 Hunter St) Exchange Place (5-7 Willeston St) Willeston Centre (22-28 Willeston St) NZX Centre (11 Cable St) United Building (107 Customhouse Quay) CMC Building (89 Courtenay Place) Conservation House (18-32 Manners St) Sovereign House (34 Manners Street) MSO House (19 Edward St) BNZ Trust House (50 Manners St) Axon House (1 Willeston St) NEC/Panasonic House (40 Taranaki St) Cheers Si

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Re: [nznog] NZNOG '08 Talks
by Ewen McNeill 09 Dec '07

09 Dec '07

In message <eedb5d410712091222j7181d91eja34beb9c8ec64727(a)mail.gmail.com>, "Neil Fenemor" writes: >As some of you will have noticed, we're getting more of the talks confirmed >and up for NZNOG'08. However there is still a spot for you to speak. There are also still a few speaking slots at the Sysadmin Miniconf (held on the Wednesday); details here: http://nznog.miniconf.org/ (We're a little behind on the draft programme, as we're still waiting on a few speakers to provide titles/abstracts.) I'd be particularly interested in someone to speak on content distribution networks, and someone to speak on deploying IPv6-aware applications, but proposals for anything related to ISP systems administration will be gratefully received. Please email proposals and any questions to <talks08(a)nznog.miniconf.org> Ewen

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