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Re: [nznog] Routing question
by Justin Cook 21 May '06

21 May '06

Thanks to everyone who responded, particularly JSR. All sorted and working great.

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Routing question
by Justin Cook 21 May '06

21 May '06

Quick question from a routing noob: I've just acquired 210.48.96.88/30. The two IP addresses in the block are intended for a couple of vmware instances. We're not using anything nice like a Cisco router, just a Linksys stand-in for now. It has some basic static routing capabilities. I had a short conversation with Iconz support but I'm not feeling very confident about the result. I've been instructed (or rather I said "this is what we came up with" and I got a vague "yes") to add the following entry to the routing table (where 202.37.231.84 is the existing IP that we're using as an external address): Destination: 210.48.96.88 Subnet: 255.255.255.252 Gateway: 202.37.231.84 Interface: Local It's the gateway bit we're unsure of - won't this cause a loop? My mate is concerned that it's not going to work as it needs to be on the same subnet. Cheers Justin

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 21 May '06

21 May '06

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. 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Are there any blakjak.net mail admins on this list?
by Juha Saarinen 20 May '06

20 May '06

The subject of the message is: Re: [nznog] SORBS still causing serious problems... The address to which the message has not yet been delivered is: blakjak(a)blakjak.net Delay reason: SMTP error from remote mail server after RCPT TO:<blakjak(a)blakjak.net>: host mx.blakjak.net [202.50.176.75]: 451 Dynamic IP Addresses See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx "Does this not go back to people using the dnsBL the wrong way... (!) People who choose to use them to _drop_ mail need to instead be using them to _score_ mail... Surely people who are losing mission-critical services due to this should instead be petitioning relevant ISPs to change their dnsBL practises?" Yes yes! I agree! On a more serious note, even Outblaze bounces messages now based on the wrong SORBS listing. @#(*)^$@!!! -- Juha Saarinen www.geekzone.co.nz/juha www.computerworld.co.nz

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E mails
by suzanne gerrard 20 May '06

20 May '06

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Ihug Mail Admin?
by Erin Salmon - Unleash 20 May '06

20 May '06

Hi, If there are any Ihug Mail Admins floating around on the list would you be so good as to put your hand up? One of your customers is sending out thousands of promo newsletters with several images attached. It has been running since Friday and a number of our clients are already facing several hundred dollar excess usage charges from our good friends at Telecom from downloading it all. They have stupidly put the addresses in the CC field, and I believe the problem may be that some of the CC field recipients are running MS Exchange 2000. There is a bug if it is configured for open relaying which resends emails to the list of addresses if there are more than a certain number. I recall having this issue a year or two ago, but Im a bit hazy on the details, and Im not a mail guru myself. The KB seems to be taking this convenient moment to throw an error when I try to search it. If I recall correctly, SP3 for Exchange 2000 fixed the problem, so with any luck there would only be only server in the recipient list with the problem and we can stamp it out. If anyone recalls this Exchange issue, Id appreciate a steer too. Cheers, Erin Salmon Managing Director Unleash Technology Solutions <http://www.unleash.net.nz/> Phone: +64 3 365 1273 Mobile: +64 21 877 913 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/344 - Release Date: 19/05/2006

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Static IP in a hurry ?
by Richard Naylor 20 May '06

20 May '06

Anyone from Xtra online tonight ? I have one of your customers who needs a static IP number in a hurry. A family member has died and they're webcasting the tangi. We've had 3 number changes in as many minutes. - They'll pay. Rich

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SORBS still causing serious problems...
by Kris Angerano 19 May '06

19 May '06

Heya NZ guys. I work for an ISP out in Oregon US (EasyStreet). And we have recently been hit hard by the mistakes at SORBS. They have mistakenly added our 209.x static group as a dynamic IP range and blocked them all. This has been happening for 5 days now. We have submitted tickets to Matthew and his crew describing the problem and we even gave him our entire Dynamic and Static IP Blocks. To no avail, our RT ticket sits there untouched and the problem is unresolved. RT 77734, 76636 The worse part is we use SORBS, so initially we couldn't even receive some of our own customers email. Since then we have whitelisted our own IP block to solve that problem. But that isn't even a band aid. I called Matthew yesterday and he explained to me about his current 'troubles' so I didn't give him a hard time about our ticket. But this is getting ridiculous. A significant part of our 209.x block is business customers with their own mail servers. They are getting frustrated and we may start to lose business because of this. If anyone cares or has their eyes open out there, we need some help please! Thanks, Kris A

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Re: [nznog] SORBS still listing Telecom static IPs as dynamic...
by Donald Neal 19 May '06

19 May '06

> > > > Please don't use American English. Won't someone please think of the > > children! > > > > American English, thats an oxymoron isnt it ? > I have no doubt of the relevance of most of this thread, but it seems to have now run its course. - Donald Neal List Asministrator Donald Neal |"Email is not to be used to pass on Support Engineer |information or data. It should be NGN Operations |used only for company business." Integration & Services Division +----------------------------------- Alcatel NZ Ltd - Telecom's network operations manager This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002.

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Re: [nznog] SORBS still listing Telecom static IPs as dynamic...
by Scott Weeks 18 May '06

18 May '06

----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Jamie Riden" <jamesr(a)europe.com> > > No other blacklist operates like - or generates the hate > > - that S(ORBS) does. > > Actually, I've seen people say that and worse about every > single blacklist including SBL, which is probably the most > conservative one, all the way back to the MAPS original. They all say that if you're not a spammer, you have to pay LOTS of money to people they tell you to pay to be delisted? http://www.au.sorbs.net/faq/spamdb.shtml "Third and finally, if you are really not a spammer, or you are truly reformed, de-listing is relatively easy. You donate US$50 to a charity or trust approved by, and not connected with, SORBS for each spam received related to the listing. This is referred to as the SORBS 'fine'." scott

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