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Xtra and usenet
by Matthew Poole 02 May '06

02 May '06

I notice that there's been a dearth of comment in here about this. Does the NZNOG community not especially care, or has this just flown below the radar? -- Matthew Poole "Don't use force. Get a bigger hammer."

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Re: [nznog] Xtra and usenet
by Blair Harrison 02 May '06

02 May '06

Mark Foster wrote: > > I am interested to see whether there is an opinion that regardless of the > 'how' this was done by Xtra, that this may infact have been a 'smart' idea > (from a business POV). One assumes you take into account the business > overheads of running a usenet server in the first place, and that there is > a noticable benefit to the company by cancelling the service... I'm interested to know which ISPs actually still run a Usenet server - and if so, how much bandwidth does it use and how many users does it have? Both raw numbers and as a percentage of the userbase... I'm guessing not very many.. Given the availability of services like GigaNews, Google Groups and the large bandwidth and support demands of running a Usenet server down under, is an ISP provided Usenet Server really something that needs to exist these days? And on another topic, Bonzi Buddy seems to think it's time for a beer. http://202.174.163.104/~blair/bonzibeer.jpg -Blair

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Any Telecom mail admins here?
by Juha Saarinen 01 May '06

01 May '06

Getting SORBS-induced message bounces from Telecom's mail servers due to that erroneous dial-up listing. I'm probably not the only one. -- Juha Saarinen www.geekzone.co.nz/juha www.computerworld.co.nz

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Re: [nznog] Sorbs blocking addresses
by Matthew Sullivan 01 May '06

01 May '06

Craig Humphrey wrote: >Thanks Matthew. > > As an update because of the problems I have just caused new zonefiles for the DUHL zone to be created with only the test entry until the update is complete. (Why I didn't think of that before I'll never know). Regards, Mat

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Re: [nznog] Sorbs blocking addresses
by Craig Box 01 May '06

01 May '06

> I'm assuming this means that all customers sending their own mail will > now have to use the xtra smtp servers? On that subject, I notice that etrn.iconz.co.nz has (probably recently) started using SORBS's dynamic DNS blacklist, and I've had reported e-mail complaints from Xtra and TelstraClear DSL customers today. Generally, when we find this happening, we contact the sysadmin on the remote end and advise them that they are likely blocking a whole set of e-mail they want to receive - harder when it's an ISP. With Xtra's Port 25 push, it could be that ICONZ have decided to have a flag day, forcing everyone wishing to communicate with them, running a (small business) mail server on a DSL connection, to now use their upstream ISP's mail server - losing the ability to diagnose mail routing after it disappears "into the black box". Is this the future? Craig

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Sorbs blocking addresses
by Kerry 01 May '06

01 May '06

Hello, would seem that there is an issue here... We are now getting Xtra based customers with perminant mail delivery failures. Netblock: 210.55.172.0/23 (210.55.172.0-210.55.173.255) Record Created: Mon May 1 13:22:39 2006 GMT Record Updated: Mon May 1 13:22:39 2006 GMT Netblock: 210.55.170.0/23 (210.55.170.0-210.55.171.255) Record Created: Mon May 1 13:22:39 2006 GMT Record Updated: Mon May 1 13:22:39 2006 GMT Netblock: 210.55.174.0/24 (210.55.174.0-210.55.174.255) Record Created: Mon May 1 13:22:40 2006 GMT Record Updated: Mon May 1 13:22:40 2006 GMT $ nslookup 210.55.174.1 Server: . Address: 172.20.0.2 Name: 210-55-174-1.ipnets.xtra.co.nz Address: 210.55.174.1 I'm assuming this means that all customers sending their own mail will now have to use the xtra smtp servers? Cheers, kerry

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 01 May '06

01 May '06

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: aut-num: AS37999 as-name: NZRR-AS37999 descr: TVNZ descr: APE peering at '192.203.154.22' descr: see Citylink RT job #5301 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR import: from AS9560 accept ANY AND NOT fltr-bogons export: to AS9560 announce AS37999 notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)tvnz.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060502 source: NZRR --- OBJECT BELOW CREATED: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS37999 descr: Route set advertised to AS9560 by TVNZ - AS37999 members: 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)tvnz.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20060502 source: NZRR

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 01 May '06

01 May '06

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Steaming Event
by Webmaster 30 Apr '06

30 Apr '06

Operators may be interested to know that Radio NZ is running a large streaming event this Saturday 6 May. Music 101 (www.radionz.co.nz/music101) will be broadcast live from Bar Bodega in Wellington, and we'll be providing enhanced audio and video for the event as it also includes live music performances. We'll be offering the following Video: 56 K, 128K, 384K, 768K at all our servers (US and local) 2M will only be offered locally (customers whose ISPs do not peer will not havce access to this). And for Audio: 256K stereo (this is not a typo). This is addition to our usual 48 K stream. As is usual for these events the best performance for your customers can be obtained by peering with the servers located at the NZ exchanges. Limited NZ bound capacity will be available from the US server. Radio NZ will peer with anyone who has connectivity where we do - at APE, PNIX or WIX. We do not charge peers for access to our content. regards, Richard Hulse

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Re: [nznog] QSI / "industry" DSL problems caused by3.5mbit upgrades?
by Simon Allard 27 Apr '06

27 Apr '06

> With this service limitation I can easily see how Quicksilver could > potentially be affected more than Ihug, Iconz, Xtra and Orcon. I would > guess that the average user profile on Quicksilver would tend towards > higher bandwidth usage whereas the typical Xtra (etc) user would > probably use less bandwidth. > > Unfortunately if this view I have is correct then I don't see an end to > problems unless either the average Quicksilver user profile changes -or- > Telecom changes the PVC limitation. I am curious to know what effect offering free national traffic has on the QSI DSL Network. In my experience offering free anything in this environment Telecom has created causes nothing by problems.

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