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Re: [nznog] Waiuku/ glen brook area wireless access
by Paul Norton 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

you could give satellite a go.. http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3423872a28,00.html ________________________________ From: Jeremy Strachan [mailto:JeremyS(a)cclnz.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2005 14:20 To: Garrett Stoupe Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Waiuku/ glen brook area wireless access Iridium Satellite phone?!! and you thought we lived in a developed country... ________________________________ From: Garrett Stoupe [mailto:garretts(a)te.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2005 2:16 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Waiuku/ glen brook area wireless access Hey guys My parents have just recently moved out to the country, how ever telecom has stated they will not be able to install a phone line for them until December or early next year. How ever they require internet access, they have already approached woosh, woosh has said they do not cover that area, wired country they have also contacted and they said they need to be in view of the pukekohe hills, in this case my parents aren't Is anyone aware of any other wireless internet service that covers the gelnbrook, waiuku , pukekohe area? Garrett Stoupe "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you. Please note that this communication does not designate an information system for the purposes of the Electronic Transactions Act 2002."

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Re: [nznog] Waiuku/ glen brook area wireless access
by Jeremy Strachan 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

Iridium Satellite phone?!! and you thought we lived in a developed country... ________________________________ From: Garrett Stoupe [mailto:garretts(a)te.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 29 September 2005 2:16 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Waiuku/ glen brook area wireless access Hey guys My parents have just recently moved out to the country, how ever telecom has stated they will not be able to install a phone line for them until December or early next year. How ever they require internet access, they have already approached woosh, woosh has said they do not cover that area, wired country they have also contacted and they said they need to be in view of the pukekohe hills, in this case my parents aren't Is anyone aware of any other wireless internet service that covers the gelnbrook, waiuku , pukekohe area? Garrett Stoupe

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Audio Streaming
by Webmaster 28 Sep '05

28 Sep '05

Radio NZ is nearing the end of the testing phase of the live audio streams of National Radio and Concert FM. As a result of feedback from the tests we have removed the 16 kbs cap from our US server. This means that the streams can go up to 48 kbs stereo (National Radio) and 64 kbs (Concert FM) for ALL end users regardless of their location. At present about 40% of the traffic from this server is NZ bound. The streams are also available via NZ exchange points should operators wish to avoid the more expensive international route. regards, Richard Hulse

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23754 descr: advertised to AS9439 by CityLink - AS23754 members: 198.48.0.0/22^22-29, 202.8.44.0/22^22-29, 198.32.71.0/24^24-29, 203.118.144.0/24^24-29, 202.7.4.32/28^28-29, 203.97.231.224/28^28-29, 203.79.85.80/29, 203.109.195.72/29, 210.48.103.0/29, 210.48.103.112/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050708 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS23754 descr: advertised to AS9439 by CityLink - AS23754 members: 198.48.0.0/22^22-29, 202.8.44.0/22^22-29, 198.32.71.0/24^24-29, 203.118.144.0/24^24-29, 202.7.4.32/28^28-29, 202.7.7.88/29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: noc(a)citylink.co.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050926 source: NZRR

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Notification of NZRR Database changes
by NZRR Database Notifications 25 Sep '05

25 Sep '05

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that some object(s) in NZRR database which you either maintain or are listed as to-be-notified have been added, deleted or changed. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS7696 descr: Route set advertised to AS9439 by OneSquared - AS7696 members: 202.160.112.0/21^21-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: sam(a)onesquared.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050905 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS7696 descr: advertised to AS9439 by OneSquared - AS7696 members: 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 202.135.231.144/28^28-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: sam(a)onesquared.net mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20050926 source: NZRR

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What would the NZ numbers be?
by Juha Saarinen 22 Sep '05

22 Sep '05

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/netw/40778CA910E0E6B4CC25707D007A6977 Anyone know? -- Juha

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Orcon support email - auto reply. Anyone from orcon listening??
by Gavin Legge 22 Sep '05

22 Sep '05

Yeah it's still coming through - if anyone at orcon is on here - they may want to unsub there support address so it does not auto reply all the time to the poster. The following came from support(a)orcon.net.nz in reply to my post... <include message> Thankyou for emailing Orcon customer support. Your email has been received and will be processed as quickly as possible, however we are experiencing some delays at present due to high customer demand so it may take up to 96 hours to get an initial response. We've just implemented a new ticketing system to allow better tracking of customer enquiries and orders - and your email has been assigned the identifier: FZT-83853-666. Please ensure you keep this ticket ID in the subject line of any related replies. Warm regards, Orcon Customer Support. Auckland: (09) 444-4414 Freephone: (0508) 4ORCON 8am - 8pm Monday-Friday 11am - 8pm Saturday/Sunday and public holidays -------------------------------------------------------------- In the interim, please check out the following items which may allow you solve your problem on your own: GENERAL: * Basic configuration settings http://www.orcon.net.nz/help/settings/nz/ DIALUP * Current pricing plans and signup http://www.orcon.net.nz/products/dialup/ DSL * Want to upgrade to Orcon's new BitStream 256k service ($49.95/month) http://www.orcon.net.nz/shortcut/getbitstream * Current pricing plans http://www.orcon.net.nz/products/jetstream/ * Experiencing high ping times/latency? See the following link for information http://www.orcon.net.nz/help/kb/ADSL/latency BILLING * Frequently asked questions about your billing http://www.orcon.net.nz/help/billing/ If any of the above links help answer the query you just emailed us, if possible please do us the courtesy of emailing us saying the problem is "resolved" so we can attend to other customer's queries. --- Kind Regards Gavin Legge Security Officer [Linux Systems Administrator] g.legge(a)irl.cri.nz 04 931 3131 (ext 4131) 021 905 461 This electronic transmission and any documents accompanying this electronic transmission contain confidential information belonging to the sender. This information may be legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on or regarding the contents of this electronically transmitted information is strictly prohibited.

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Re: [nznog] Vodafone dial pattern - another change ?
by Gavin Legge 22 Sep '05

22 Sep '05

I used to work for a telco and on many occasions observed overlap sending on ISDN's working fine. This while watching test instruments across live lines. - so yeah - it's used out there for sure... Go for it. -----Original Message----- From: Ian Batterbee [mailto:ian.batterbee(a)aut.ac.nz] Sent: Friday, 23 September 2005 1:16 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] Vodafone dial pattern - another change ? >Surely the delay thing is why most VoIP type systems accept something >such as "#" as an "I've finished inputting my number, please dial it" >indicator ? > > Although we do operate a VoIP system, that's largely irrelevant, because our previous PBX (Ericsson MD110) had all the patterns configured into it as well, so we would have been in the same situation. Users don't expect to have to dial a # at the end of their number, and we shouldn't expect them to have to do so. >Is the 5 seconds tuneable ? "wait 5 seconds till the 5th digit has been >entered then change this to 3 seconds till the 7th digit then change >this to 1 second" > The 5-second delay is coming from TelstraClear.. so no, we can't tune it. They're waiting for another digit, and when I posted about last month, it was because TCL's pattern was actually incorrect, and was waiting for extra digits that would never come, resulting in an unncessary 5 second setup delay to a large number of 021 numbers. This has since been corrected. A number of PBX systems validate the numbers so that they can match and therefore route them down the most appropriate route. Our (Cisco) PBX comes with patterns for most countries, which simplifies the task of setting up a new system. While I agree NZ's plan is relatively simple, other countries are not, and that's probably the reason they do it that way. There is the possibilty that we could enable overlap sending.. which I believe means that you send each digit as it is dialled, rather than all at once in an ISDN SETUP message - as it gives the telco the option to send back 'more needed', or 'that's enough digits'.. but.. I'm reluctant to turn it on without some proper testing first. Thanks to Barry who found the info I needed, and finally, to those of you who do validate the numbers locally, and who were forced into silence before posting anything by Steve's helpful comments, here are the new patterns: 021 0221 XXXX 021 0222 XXXX I believe there may be more coming. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. MailScanner Supplied by ITS-HelpDesk. ext 4001 or email helpdesk(a)irl.cri.nz-- This electronic transmission and any documents accompanying this electronic transmission contain confidential information belonging to the sender. This information may be legally privileged. The information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on or regarding the contents of this electronically transmitted information is strictly prohibited.

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Re: [nznog] Vodafone dial pattern - another change ?
by Ian Batterbee 22 Sep '05

22 Sep '05

>Surely the delay thing is why most VoIP type systems accept something >such as "#" as an "I've finished inputting my number, please dial it" >indicator ? > > Although we do operate a VoIP system, that's largely irrelevant, because our previous PBX (Ericsson MD110) had all the patterns configured into it as well, so we would have been in the same situation. Users don't expect to have to dial a # at the end of their number, and we shouldn't expect them to have to do so. >Is the 5 seconds tuneable ? "wait 5 seconds till the 5th digit has been >entered then change this to 3 seconds till the 7th digit then change >this to 1 second" > The 5-second delay is coming from TelstraClear.. so no, we can't tune it. They're waiting for another digit, and when I posted about last month, it was because TCL's pattern was actually incorrect, and was waiting for extra digits that would never come, resulting in an unncessary 5 second setup delay to a large number of 021 numbers. This has since been corrected. A number of PBX systems validate the numbers so that they can match and therefore route them down the most appropriate route. Our (Cisco) PBX comes with patterns for most countries, which simplifies the task of setting up a new system. While I agree NZ's plan is relatively simple, other countries are not, and that's probably the reason they do it that way. There is the possibilty that we could enable overlap sending.. which I believe means that you send each digit as it is dialled, rather than all at once in an ISDN SETUP message - as it gives the telco the option to send back 'more needed', or 'that's enough digits'.. but.. I'm reluctant to turn it on without some proper testing first. Thanks to Barry who found the info I needed, and finally, to those of you who do validate the numbers locally, and who were forced into silence before posting anything by Steve's helpful comments, here are the new patterns: 021 0221 XXXX 021 0222 XXXX I believe there may be more coming.

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Vodafone dial pattern - another change ?
by Ian Batterbee 22 Sep '05

22 Sep '05

In the last 24 hours I've heard from multiple sources that Vodafone is now using 8 digit prepay numbers - the numbers I was given that were reported 'not working' (because our PBX didn't match all the digits) were both 021-0222xxxx, ie, 8 digits after the 021. I know I asked about this only one month ago, but back then 021[012] only appeared to require 6 further digits, and not 7. I've just tried calling both 0222xxxx numbers from my vodafone mobile, and they they both rang. I tried leaving the last digit off, and they both failed, so it does suggest that things have changed. Does anyone know what's going on, and/or what the correct prefix for this number pattern is ? If I change my end to match 0210 plus 7, it will introduce a 5 second delay into any numbers that only have 6 digits after the 0210 -- Ian Batterbee, CCNP Senior Network/Comms Technician Auckland University of Technology

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