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21 Aug '03

Fellow nznog'ers, I think we have now fully covered the "New ADSL products are a joke", however funny. Time to move on to more technical and relevant issues. jfp. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jean-Francois Pirus <jfp(a)clearfield.com> Clearfield Software Ltd Phone (+64-9) 358 2081 4th Floor 8-10 Whitaker Place Fax (+64-9) 358 2083 P O Box 2348 Auckland, New Zealand ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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RE: [nznog] New ADSL products.
by Richard Parkinson 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

" Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and copyright infringement. " I disagree. I can wipe the floor with 2gb a month, let alone 500mb, just running my normal business activities. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Poole [mailto:matt(a)p00le.net] Sent: Friday, 22 August 2003 4:39 p.m. To: Juha Saarinen Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] New ADSL products. On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Juha Saarinen wrote: > On Fri, 22 Aug 2003, Matthew Poole wrote: > > "500MB should be enough for everyone." > Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and copyright infringement. Everyone knows that. RIANZ probably helped Telecom come up with the pricing model (I wouldn't be surprised, actually) </TONGUE-IN-CHEEK> > As JSR said, you chew through more just trying to keep Windows up-to-date. > And we still get to pay extra for all the traffic generated by the little Windows greeblies. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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RE: [nznog] New ADSL products.
by Richard Naylor 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

At 04:51 p.m. 22/08/2003 +1200, Richard Parkinson wrote: >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C36869.12A01D26" >Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message > >" Anyone who needs more than 500MB is just using it for warez, pr0n and >copyright infringement. " > >I disagree. I can wipe the floor with 2gb a month, let alone 500mb, just >running my normal business activities. I also disagree. I encode and transcode video for people. I can create 5 GB a night which I have to bring in to town (server) on a hard disk. It would be nice to be able to copy it over dsl from my home, but not pay International rates for the privilege. All the video is copyright to its owner who I do the work for ie original content. Current pricing holds (tiny) business back. rich

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viruses
by Barry Murphy 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Anyone else picking up alot of viruses? Between 2am - 11:13am my personal mail server has picked up 119 viruses, anyone else being hit really bad? The virus was reported to be: the W32/Bugbear.b(a)MM virus !!! Barry

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A dampened route..?
by nward＠esphion.com 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Can someone confirm for me that the following prefix is being dampened around the place? 202.6.75.0/24 Nathan Ward

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Re: [nznog] ATM Recommendation
by robbie_gernandt＠wilsonandhorton.co.nz 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

ok, sorry let me re-phrase that, what link speed or bandwidth does your solution support? We implemented an ATM (34M) connection to Telecom and worked closely with all the local (NZ) vendors and it was not a cheap solution robbie My solution suits local conditions. > just curious, does your Cisco ATM solution support E1 or E3? > > robbie > > > > > > Michael Hallager <michael(a)comsolve.net.nz> > 22/08/2003 13:12 > Please respond to michael > > > To: richard(a)kcbbs.gen.nz > cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz, (bcc: Robbie > Gernandt/IT/AKLWHG/WHNZ) Subject: Re: [nznog] ATM Recommendation > > > Not at all. I can offer a Cisco solution that would likely leave change > out of > $5K or $6K. > > Kind regards, > > Michael Hallager > Networkstuff Ltd > > > On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 07:42:12AM +1200, Neil Fincham wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I have a client that has asked me to recommend a router > > to connect > > > > their Ethernet network to Telecoms ATM system. I don't know all that > > > much about ATM, and I told them that but I thought I would ask you > > guys. > > > > What would you recommend as a low-cost entry ATM device? > > Better yet > > > > has anyone got something suitable that they want to sell on for cheep? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Oooooh, your clients are in for a bit of a shock. ATM and low cost > > do not go in the same sentence together. ISPs who have bought > > Cisco equipment capable of ATM have spent 10s of thousands for > > the correct ATM card and the modular chassis to go with it. > > > > On the other hand, if you are prepared to be a bit experimental > > you may be able to use a PC installed with Linux and a supported > > PCI ATM card. I've never seen anyone try it though. > > > > > > Regards, > > RH. > > _______________________________________________ > Nznog mailing list > Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > > > > *************************************************************************** > This may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for > the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient > of this message, any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of > this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those > of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of > APN News & Media NZ Ltd. > For more information on APN News & Media NZ Ltd please visit our > web site at http://www.apn.co.nz > ***************************************************************************

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List Management Change
by Donald Neal 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

NZNOG People, To date I have been manually checking mail sent to this list from addresses which are not subscribed and accepting mail which looks relevant. The volume of spam or virus email sent to the list address has gone in the past week from dozens of messages per week to dozens per day. Since the number of relevant postings is now below 2% of those sent to the list from non-subscribed addresses, I intend shortly to cease to check such postings and to set the list to reject all of them. You are free to subscribe an address and set it not to receive mail if you wish to post from an address which is not your usual one. Donald Neal | "The way we do quality of Technical Specialist | service in the Internet Operations Engineering | today is don't drop Integration & Services Divn. | any packets." Alcatel NZ Ltd | - Barry Ravendran Greene ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [nznog] ATM Recommendation
by robbie_gernandt＠wilsonandhorton.co.nz 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

just curious, does your Cisco ATM solution support E1 or E3? robbie Michael Hallager <michael(a)comsolve.net.nz> 22/08/2003 13:12 Please respond to michael To: richard(a)kcbbs.gen.nz cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz, (bcc: Robbie Gernandt/IT/AKLWHG/WHNZ) Subject: Re: [nznog] ATM Recommendation Not at all. I can offer a Cisco solution that would likely leave change out of $5K or $6K. Kind regards, Michael Hallager Networkstuff Ltd > On Fri, Aug 22, 2003 at 07:42:12AM +1200, Neil Fincham wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I have a client that has asked me to recommend a router to connect > > their Ethernet network to Telecoms ATM system. I don't know all that > > much about ATM, and I told them that but I thought I would ask you guys. > > > > What would you recommend as a low-cost entry ATM device? Better yet > > has anyone got something suitable that they want to sell on for cheep? > > > > Thanks > > Oooooh, your clients are in for a bit of a shock. ATM and low cost > do not go in the same sentence together. ISPs who have bought > Cisco equipment capable of ATM have spent 10s of thousands for > the correct ATM card and the modular chassis to go with it. > > On the other hand, if you are prepared to be a bit experimental > you may be able to use a PC installed with Linux and a supported > PCI ATM card. I've never seen anyone try it though. > > > Regards, > RH. _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog *************************************************************************** This may contain privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any use, dissemination, distribution or reproduction of this message is prohibited. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of APN News & Media NZ Ltd. For more information on APN News & Media NZ Ltd please visit our web site at http://www.apn.co.nz ***************************************************************************

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Fwd: Re: [nznog] ATM Recommendation
by Michael Hallager 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Not at all. I can offer a Cisco solution that would likely leave change out of $5K or $6K. Kind regards, Michael Hallager Networkstuff Ltd > Oooooh, your clients are in for a bit of a shock. ATM and low cost > do not go in the same sentence together. ISPs who have bought > Cisco equipment capable of ATM have spent 10s of thousands for > the correct ATM card and the modular chassis to go with it. > > On the other hand, if you are prepared to be a bit experimental > you may be able to use a PC installed with Linux and a supported > PCI ATM card. I've never seen anyone try it though. > > > Regards, > RH. ------------------------------------------------------- -- Michael Hallager Managing Director Networkstuff Limited URL: http://www.networkstuff.co.nz Networkstuff, NZ's leading supplier of high quality used networking equipment. E-Mail: michael @ networkstuff.co.nz Member of the NZ Open Source Society. Member of the Auckland VHF Group. Amateur radio callsign: ZL1VMH.

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ATM Recommendation
by Neil Fincham 21 Aug '03

21 Aug '03

Hi All, I have a client that has asked me to recommend a router to connect their Ethernet network to Telecoms ATM system. I don't know all that much about ATM, and I told them that but I thought I would ask you guys. What would you recommend as a low-cost entry ATM device? Better yet has anyone got something suitable that they want to sell on for cheep? Thanks -- Neil Fincham <neil(a)integrals.co.nz>

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