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by mike johnson 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

WalkerWireless Simon Paterson, Steve Hawken Can Simon or Steve contact me urgently. Regards Mike Johnson Senior Network Engineer Connections Incorporated Limited Level 1, 282 Wakefield Street, PO Box 11 410, Wellington, New Zealand Mobile: +64 21 423 509; Fax: +64 4 801-5335; Switchboard: +64 4 801-5225 email: mikej(a)connections.net..nz <http://www.connections.net.nz/> Actrix Support Centre: 0800 ACTRIX, +64 4 801 5225 IMPORTANT: This electronic message and attachments (if any) are confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient do not copy, disclose or use the contents in any way. Please let us know by return email immediately and then destroy this message and any attachments.

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Orcon Internet Prefix Lists Update..
by Craig Whitmore 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Hi.. For all those peering with Orcon Internet (AS 17746) please update your Filter Lists to include the Following as below. Note we are advertising ranges from AS10022 and AS9889 as well via Orcon (AS17746) in case people are filtering via AS number as well. Peering IP's : 192.203.154.66 AND 192.203.154.67 AS: 17746 Thanks Craig Whitmore Orcon Internet http://www.orcon.net.nz ip prefix-list orcon-national description Orcon Internet National Ranges noc(a)orcon.net.nz ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 192.203.216.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.14.20.0/22 le 24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.14.217.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.27.76.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.27.140.0/22 le 24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.27.188.0/25 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.27.204.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.27.250.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.36.70.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.37.72.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.37.181.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.49.244.0/22 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.49.90.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.49.91.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.49.92.0/22 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.50.0.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.50.104.0/22 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.50.124.0/22 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.50.167.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 202.89.32.0/19 le 24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.54.12.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.54.13.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.54.56.0/21 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.54.142.0/23 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.54.148.0/22 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.0.0/25 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.5.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.8.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.12.0/22 le 24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.18.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.29.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.100.0/22 le 24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.104.0/22 le 24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.110.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.155.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.169.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.199.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.214.0/24 ip prefix-list orcon-national permit 210.55.230.0/24 - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Frame-Relay Packet Loss
by Sahil Gupta - Net4U Limited 01 Apr '02

01 Apr '02

Funnily enough when we ping a machine of his, we seem to be jumping up and down in the ping rates. At times as low as 4ms and as high as 55ms over a direct frame.. What could it be? RAM? On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Craig Spiers wrote: > If he pings www.net4u.co.nz and gets no packet loss, his circuit is fine.. > > If he pings www.winz.co.nz and gets packet losss the problem is between you > and winz.co.nz > > > Quoting Sahil Gupta - Net4U Limited <sahil(a)sahil.net.nz>: > > > As below with "###" > > > > On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Malcolm Lockyer wrote: > > > > > > > > Let me just jump in here, since I was on site.. > > > > > > On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Craig Whitmore wrote: > > > > > > > A few things which may help (not in any order) > > > > > > > > 1) Look at Stats of Frame-Relay Connection (Any Errors??) (Geting Telecom > > to > > > > do BIR TEST) > > > > > > Don't know - forgot the router's ip address, so I can't telnet in and > > > check - sahil will though. (just do a show frame-relay pvc right?) > > > > > > > 2) Are they getting what they are paying for? Are they getting CIR > > before > > > > before any errors occur? Remember the 384K is not promised, only 64K is > > > > promised, any extra bandwidth depends on ALOT of things. > > > > > > Don't know - originally it was being traffic shapped at 384K - which I > > > thought could give the same behavior (ie - the cisco over subscribes the > > > bandwidth). After removing the traffic shaping - the pings were a little > > > lower. > > > > ### I think that the guy needs to up his PVC, I feel he is pushing through > > more than the CIR of the circuit and the circuit seems to be falling close > > to the CIR most of the times. > > > > > > > > > 3) Define "Packet loss"? slow downloads? > > > > > > Well - we've only heard from the asian guy (no offence, but kinda a > > little > > > bad at english) that they get packet losses up to 45%, and when they get > > > packet loss the whole internet is "slow", and people get the "cannot find > > > server errors". > > > > ### He gets packet losses the moment they begin to download, he > > unfortunately pings "www.winz.co.nz" and "www.net4u.co.nz". While he > > pings www.net4u.co.nz he doesn't get any packet loss even while > > downloading, only thing when he jumps out of our network and onto the WWW > > he begins facing packet loss i.e. while pinging www.winz.co.nz > > > > > > > > > 4) Check Settings on Routers on either end (Are both ends different > > hardware > > > > (Any compatibility issues between hardware))? > > > > > > Nope - there is a cisco 2501 and a 2503. > > > > > > > 5) Check Telecom has Circuit defined right.. > > > Dunno - we should ask though. > > > > ###I think Telecom have set it right. Only thing using MRTG I have seen > > them pull upto 440k. Which is why I decided to traffic-shape their link > > as it was affecting other users. > > > > > > > > > 6) Are routers running at high CPU? For example 2500's can't handle > > much > > > > bandwidth thru them without going Kaput and slowing things down > > > > > > Umm.. both the routers were running at about 45ish% cpu usage. However, > > > there was very little ram on the 2503 (4mb) - and it is handling about a > > > meg of shaped traffic now - could that be it? > > > > ###Today, I went and swapped the 2 DRAM Chips around (BTW, Malcolm that > > bent case isn't shutting.. you may need to come around) it seems better, > > but not the BEST. I have also ordered in some 16MB Parity Kingston RAM, > > I'll give that a go. > > > > > > > > > 7) Check External Devices (ethernet convertor on 2500/Serial > > > > Cables/Ehternet) > > > > > > The AUI trancivers seem fine. > > > > > > > 8) On Frame Relay connections, you have not "over subscribed" the Access > > (ie > > > > trying to total of 2M CIR's over a 1M Circuit)? > > > > > > Well - its possible with the traffic shaping rules we were using (ie - > > > shaped to the PIR - when it is running a 25% CIR) > > > > ###Nope, definately NOT. Our end has 3 PVC's off our 1Meg Access and > > they sum up to 1024k > > > > > > > > > 9) MTU set right on both ends? > > > > > > Dunno - Sahil - check > > > > > ### They both say "0 01" > > > > > > Thats just some info about what happenes - any more ideas? > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Craig Whitmore > > > > Orcon Internet > > > > http://www.orcon.net.nz > > > > > > > > > > > --snip-- > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > Malcolm Lockyer > > > > > > -- > > > owner/founder/managing director > > > > > > -= Nuron Net =- > > > You're on the net! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > where the body of your message reads: > > unsubscribe nznog > > > > > > - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Frame-Relay Packet Loss
by Sahil Gupta - Net4U Limited 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

I think he has a weird feeling that www.winz.co.nz is good old "Work and Income New Zealand" On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Keith Davidson wrote: > > ### He gets packet losses the moment they begin to download, he > > unfortunately pings "www.winz.co.nz" and "www.net4u.co.nz". While he > > pings www.net4u.co.nz he doesn't get any packet loss even while > > downloading, only thing when he jumps out of our network and onto the WWW > > he begins facing packet loss i.e. while pinging www.winz.co.nz > > Why on earth is he pinging my network? > > Keith Davidson > > > - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Frame-Relay Packet Loss
by Sahil Gupta - Net4U Limited 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

Hello there, We currently have a Frame-Relay Customer, they seem to be experiencing packet loss (upto 45%) when they begin a download. However it isn't the case on our end. Any pointers? They are running a 64/384k PVC and are an Intenret Cafe. Cheers, Sahil - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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OT: Old Stuff
by Malcolm Lockyer 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Hello all, Sorry for the off topic post, and comerical nature of this post. But, I'm looking at doing a project about the devaluation of equipment. How routers/switches/hubs etc. etc. which cost $$$'s of dollars, then become almost worthless only a few years latter. So for the project it would be good to have some old gear on hand. So - I was wondering if people had old cisco switches/routers/anything, or any other branded equipment - thats old/broken/not relyable anymore that they wouldn't mind parting with. If you are in the hamilton/Auckland area, I'll come and get gear, or pay for shipping. I'm even happy to give a couple of dollars for stuff that still works okay. Thanks alot! - it'd be very thankful for ANYTHING. (BTW - please message me off list). Best regards, Malcolm Lockyer -- owner/founder/managing director -= Nuron Net =- You're on the net! - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Prefixes, and gonzo...
by James Tyson 29 Mar '02

29 Mar '02

Okay, it's official, I am a gonzo. I admit it freely. This is the classic example of when your brain fried, and working on completely new configs for about 10 routers at once. Anyay, I think all the emails from people saying "Hey, what about...." have finished coming in. Here's the *actual* prefix list for our networks (must rememember the customers edition): ip prefix-list callplus-networks contact noc(a)noc.attica.net.nz ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.14.252.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.49.62.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.49.82.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.49.250.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.50.60.0/22 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.50.170.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 210.55.111.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 210.55.158.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 210.55.254.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.180.116.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.37.129.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.180.64.0/18 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 192.100.53.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.27.48.0/21 le 24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.27.56.0/22 le 24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.36.204.0/23 le 24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.49.152.0/21 le 24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 202.154.128.0/19 le 24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 203.96.16.0/20 le 24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks permit 203.96.48.0/20 le 24 Please don't ask me to convert it into JunOS speak, my brain is fried. -- Cheers. --- James Tyson Moebius Systems Ltd http://www.moebius.co.nz/ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Anti-spammers...
by Terence Giufre-Sweetser 28 Mar '02

28 Mar '02

Anyone interested in formalizing an affiliation with the various anti-spam lobbies around the globe, and set up branch of CAUCE? or CaUBE.au? http://www.caube.org.au/join.htm --- Terence C. Giufre-Sweetser +---------------------------------+--------------------------+ | TereDonn Telecommunications Ltd | Phone +61-[0]7-32369366 | | 1/128 Bowen St, SPRING HILL | FAX +61-[0]7-32369930 | | PO BOX 1054, SPRING HILL 4004 | Mobile +61-[0]414-663053 | | Queensland Australia | http://www.tdce.com.au | +---------------------------------+--------------------------+ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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New Prefix List
by James Tyson 26 Mar '02

26 Mar '02

Hi Folks. Just letting you all know that we will be doing some major work on the Attica/Callplus network over the easter weekend, and you can all expect to see your APE and WIX peering sessions die at some stage in the early hours of Saturday morning. Also, here is our current prefix-list if your interested: ip prefix-list callplus-networks contact noc(a)noc.attica.net.nz ip prefix-list callplus-networks seq 5 permit 202.14.252.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks seq 10 permit 202.49.62.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks seq 15 permit 202.49.82.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks seq 20 permit 202.49.250.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks seq 25 permit 202.50.60.0/22 ip prefix-list callplus-networks seq 30 permit 202.50.170.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks seq 35 permit 210.55.111.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks seq 40 permit 210.55.158.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks seq 45 permit 210.55.254.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks seq 50 permit 202.180.116.0/24 ip prefix-list callplus-networks seq 55 permit 202.180.64.0/18 Joy! -- Cheers. --- James Tyson Moebius Systems Ltd http://www.moebius.co.nz/ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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NZNOG, UniForum and the Conference
by Donald Neal 25 Mar '02

25 Mar '02

The UniForum NZ board met on Saturday, 16th March, and spent most of its time discussing matters related to the upcoming conference. NZNOG has been proceeding on the basis that it is going to be holding a gathering which is to take the form of a stream at that conference, to be held in Auckland in July. NZNOG seems to me to have a strong programme lined up, and there have been many expressions of interest in attending. But given the fact that we've never done this before, it is hard to be precise about how many people we can expect to turn up. At which point things have the potential to get a bit more complex. Two views were expressed at the meeting of the relationship between UniForum NZ and the conference. The majority view held that UniForum holds the conference in part to attract membership. Also, a surplus made on the operation of a conference for a society's members is not taxed, while a surplus made on a conference attended by non-members has a tax status which is not clear. UniForum NZ has in the past included a year's subscription in the non-member registration rate for its conferences, so that in fact only members attended. The minority view - held by me and by one other board member also from outside Wellington - held that UniForum NZ exists primarily in order to provide the conference. Since NZNOG's involvement contributes substantially to the conference, it is therefore a good thing. Attracting UniForum membership is good, but not the purpose of the conference. The board decided that all attendees at the upcoming conference should be members of UniForum NZ. This has the potential to be a problem, but it is not yet clear to me how large a problem. No final decision has yet been made on registration charges for this year's conference, but a figure for ordinary registrants of around $200 per day including morning and afternoon teas and lunch seems likely. Arrangements regarding dinner are still being considered. An "early bird" registration offer of noticeably less than that is planned. At present, UniForum NZ's annual subscription is $85 including GST. To add this figure to the sort of registration charge previously discussed on this list would make a noticeable difference to the amount people are being asked to pay. Among the issues now being considered by UniForum NZ is what sort of organisation it wants to be. If it decides to take something like the minority view of itself, it has the option of cutting its overheads and reducing its annual subscription to something low enough that bundling it in with a conference registration would not be a problem. This will be considered in the next couple of months, but I cannot predict the outcome of that consideration. This discussion came as something of a surprise to me, but it appears that Linux User Group members with whom this has been discussed do not have a problem with this level of registration charge. The first question then becomes how much money NZNOG people are willing to part with to attend. $200 per day is not bad when compared to commercial training of any kind, but is significantly more than the amounts that have been discussed on this list in the past. A rate well below that is to be available to those who register early. I'd like to hear (to me, not the list please) from anyone who'd plan to attend at a cost of around $200 for two days but have a problem paying more than that, and from anyone who'd attend at a cost of around $300 for two days but have a problem paying more than that. And what happens if I hear from lots of people? I'm not sure. For now I simply intend to see how many people get back to me over the next couple of days. -- Donald Neal Special Operations Network Delivery Telecom New Zealand Ltd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ============================================================================== - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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