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Mailwasher.
by Simon Lyall 06 May '02

06 May '02

Are other people having problems with customers using this program? It has a function for "bounce" spam which forges bounces from MAILER-DAEMON at the ISP's domain. I seem to only have a very small number of customers using it but the queues on my mail smtp servers are growing a bit with emails to bogus addresses waiting to time out (which is why there is a seperate server for bounces in the first place). I'm really worried that if use of the program takes off I'll have to re-resource ($$$) my mail servers to take account of a few 10,000s emails sitting in the outgoing queues or else the same customers will start blaming me for not delivering their emails in less than 10 seconds. I think the author is from New Zealand, anybody know them , an address where I can send a bill would be great. I also really object to the concept of the program forging email addresses on emails. -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz ihug, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Mailwasher.
by Darrin Cooke 06 May '02

06 May '02

-----Original Message----- From: Simon Byrnand [mailto:simon(a)igrin.co.nz] >Maybe the author of the program needs a friendly but firm whack with a clue >stick to remove the offending functions of the program. The last thing we >need is more undeliverable crap sitting in outbound queues. The spammers >themselves provide ample quantity there :) >Regards, >Simon I just dicovered that the Netguide magazine has half a page about mailwasher, They seem to be recommending it; "Mailwasher (insert URL here) analyses each email as is arrives and warns you if it is suspected junkmail or a virus. But not only does it let you delete unwanted emails before you download them, it also bounces them back so it looks like your email address is invalid." etc etc etc. They credit a "Christchurch businessman Nick Bolton" with the idea. <insert comments regarding LART'ing with large clue stick here> Cheers, Darrin - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Mailwasher.
by Gordon Smith 06 May '02

06 May '02

Hi Simon, I had a couple of customers using it, until I informed them that technically they were breaching our AUP (forging headers). I don't care if they want to use it for filtering, but trying to bounce to domains with bogus MX pointers just causes me problems. Once they understood the issue, they were quite happy to just use the filtering functions. Cheers, Gordon - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: FW: Walker Wireless attacking other ISPs?
by Steve Phillips 04 May '02

04 May '02

Sorry, this was supposed to hit the list Friday, but due to posting restrictions it never made it through :-) -- As the owner of this IP block, we were made aware of the issue, we requested that we be given until the end of the working day to obtain a response from the customer involved. We personally appreciate Gordon's restraint in agreeing not to post details on this until such time as the deadline was met or the formal response was obtained. Sadly, we did not manage to get a formal response to Gordon about this issue. The customer in question was null routed at the time, the block was removed pending comment from the customer but if this causes an issue for anyone else in the Internet community then please let us know and the null will be re-instated. Thanks, -- Steve. Systems Admin, ICONZ At 16:15 3/05/2002, Juha Saarinen wrote: >On 3 May 2002, Dean Pemberton wrote: > > > > > I REALLY hope that you made Walker Wireless aware of this before you > > posted it to the whole list. > >That would've spoilt the ensuing flame war though, wouldn't it? > >-- >Juha Saarinen > >- >To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >where the body of your message reads: >unsubscribe nznog -- Steve Systems Admin, ICONZ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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FW: Walker Wireless attacking other ISPs?
by Gordon Smith 02 May '02

02 May '02

Hi all, Has anyone else been seeing mail1.walkerwireless.com attempting to break in to their border routers? Picked this up on a routine log audit. Although we actively block and log this sort of activity, others may not be aware of it. Of particular concern is the attempted use of the ILMI exploit, detailed at http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/976280 which has no legitimate reason to be seen. Attacking machine is running Checkpoint FW-1 mail server! Cheers, Gordon Smith CCNA Network Operations Manager MoreNet Ltd. Fingerprint: 4093 91BC 0055 46B9 1B1A EDBA 45AD 2381 7B1D E4BE Log extract (multiple occurrances of this): 04/23/2002 15:38.24 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 15:38.14 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "ILMI" 04/23/2002 15:38.14 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 15:38.02 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "DHdW7tr5nP" 04/23/2002 15:38.02 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 15:37.52 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "P8nD8l1n7" 04/23/2002 15:37.52 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 15:37.44 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "wd1h2dt2d" 04/23/2002 15:37.44 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 15:37.34 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "private" 04/23/2002 15:37.34 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 15:37.24 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "public" 04/23/2002 11:37.42 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 11:37.32 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "ILMI" 04/23/2002 11:37.32 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 11:37.18 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "DHdW7tr5nP" 04/23/2002 11:37.18 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 11:37.10 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "P8nD8l1n7" - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Walker Wireless attacking other ISPs?
by Richard Watson 02 May '02

02 May '02

We have noticed this and have taken action to stop these SNMP polls from reaching other ISPs. The polling of addresses blocks managed by other ISPs was purely accidental and should not happen again. Walker Wireless is more than willing to investigate incidents like this directly. If anyone has concerns about unusual activity orginating from anywhere in the Walker Wireless network please contact our Network Operations Centre on 0800-WWCARE or myself directly. Thank you, Richard Watson Network Infrastructure Engineer WALKER WIRELESS LIMITED Tel: +64 (9) 522 3674 Fax: +64 (9) 520 3447 Mob: +6427 286 6681 Email: rwatson(a)walkerwireless.com 0800 NO NETLAG Get high speed wireless internet and private network connectivity with Walker Wireless. Visit www.walkerwireless.com for information. The information in this electronic mail and its attachments is legally privileged and confidential. If the reader of this electronic mail and attachments is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination or reproduction of this electronic mail its contents and attachments is prohibited. This email is personal and may not reflect Walker Wireless', Walker Corporation's subsidiaries or affiliated companies' position. -----Original Message----- From: Gordon Smith [mailto:gordons(a)morenet.net.nz] Sent: Friday, 3 May 2002 4:09 p.m. To: Nznog Subject: FW: Walker Wireless attacking other ISPs? Hi all, Has anyone else been seeing mail1.walkerwireless.com attempting to break in to their border routers? Picked this up on a routine log audit. Although we actively block and log this sort of activity, others may not be aware of it. Of particular concern is the attempted use of the ILMI exploit, detailed at http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/976280 which has no legitimate reason to be seen. Attacking machine is running Checkpoint FW-1 mail server! Cheers, Gordon Smith CCNA Network Operations Manager MoreNet Ltd. Fingerprint: 4093 91BC 0055 46B9 1B1A EDBA 45AD 2381 7B1D E4BE Log extract (multiple occurrances of this): 04/23/2002 15:38.24 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 15:38.14 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "ILMI" 04/23/2002 15:38.14 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 15:38.02 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "DHdW7tr5nP" 04/23/2002 15:38.02 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 15:37.52 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "P8nD8l1n7" 04/23/2002 15:37.52 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 15:37.44 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "wd1h2dt2d" 04/23/2002 15:37.44 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 15:37.34 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "private" 04/23/2002 15:37.34 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 15:37.24 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "public" 04/23/2002 11:37.42 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 11:37.32 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "ILMI" 04/23/2002 11:37.32 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 11:37.18 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "DHdW7tr5nP" 04/23/2002 11:37.18 <WARN:SNMP> last message repeated 2 times 04/23/2002 11:37.10 <WARN:SNMP> SNMP request received from 210.54.139.178 with unknown community "P8nD8l1n7" - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 30 Apr '02

30 Apr '02

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RE: dyndns
by Darrin Cooke 28 Apr '02

28 Apr '02

-----Original Message----- From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] Sent: Monday, 29 April 2002 1:49 p.m. >On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Jean-Francois Pirus wrote: >> >> Is there any publicly (& free) accessible dyndns server in NZ? >> (Ignoring dyndns.co.nz) >> >> I'd like to use a local one, and was thinking of setting one up, but >> there no point in reinventing the wheel. > http://www.comtek.co.nz/dyndns/ > Not free though. No, not free, but cheap enough to warrant looking at and the support seems to make it definatly worthwhile. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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dyndns
by Jean-Francois Pirus 28 Apr '02

28 Apr '02

Is there any publicly (& free) accessible dyndns server in NZ? (Ignoring dyndns.co.nz) I'd like to use a local one, and was thinking of setting one up, but there no point in reinventing the wheel. jfp. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jean-Francois Pirus <jfp(a)clearfield.com> Clearfield Software Ltd Phone (+64-9) 358 2081 4th Floor 8-10 Whitaker Place Fax (+64-9) 358 2083 P O Box 2348 Auckland, New Zealand ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: What's the xtra contact for spam (aka: abuse@xtra)
by Mark Foster 28 Apr '02

28 Apr '02

No.. but I would like people to lose the sarcasm when its unnecessary :) At 12:24 29/04/02 +1200, Matt Camp wrote: >On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Mark Foster wrote: > > > (I got my Ihug account when I was 16 and barely knew what TCP/IP was. I > got > > my first DoS-incurred BSOD 6 days after I upgraded my DX40 from Win > 3.11 to > > Win95B - Thats a steep learning curve for someone who is NOT a natural > > talent. You gotta learn somehow, dont you?) > >Would you like a prize? > >Maybe a gold star sticker? - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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