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The New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 01 Jan '02

01 Jan '02

The New Zealand Network Operators' Group The New Zealand Network Operators' Group (NZNOG) has no king, president or formal membership. At present it consists of the subscribers to this mailing list, which anyone is free to join. This list has just under 320 subscribers, with the number rising by a few each month. You may only post to the list from an address subscribed to one of the lists described below. (Non-member postings and spam continue to be bounced in roughly equal volumes.) The NZNOG mailing list is provided through a server at The University of Waikato, and is administered by an employee of Telecom NZ Ltd. Neither of these organisations, nor the administrator, is responsible for its content. NZNOG Mailing List Acceptable Use Policy The NZNOG mailing list exists to provide a forum for the exchange of technical information and the discussion of implementation issues that require cooperation among New Zealand network service providers. In order to continue to provide a useful forum for discussion of relevant technical issues, users of the list are asked to respect the following guidelines. 1. Discussion will focus on Internet operational and technical issues. 2. Discussion related to meetings of network service providers is appropriate. 3. Discussion unrelated to these topics is not appropriate. 4. Postings to multiple mailing lists are discouraged. 5. Postings that include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are unacceptable. 6. Blatant product or service marketing is unacceptable. 7. Postings of a political, philosophical or legal nature are discouraged. 8. Postings to the list should be in ASCII or MIME encoded as text/plain. Attachments should not be sent to the list. To present a document, a suitable URL may be referred to. For documents of general interest, the use of proprietary file formats is discouraged. 9. Breaches of list etiquette should be dealt with privately with the offending list user, and should not result in complaints being sent to the list. 10. A person repeatedly breaching list etiquette shall receive warnings from the list administrator. A further breach after the second such warning within thirty days shall result in the offender being unsubscribed from the list. Other action may also be taken to block postings to the list by the offender. Any such unsubscription is to be immediately announced to the list. Mailing List Archives A full archive is available at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/archives/nznog/ Any message sent to the list will be archived and made available on the web automatically. Changes are not made to the archive on request, though the administrator remains happy to assist the Office of the Privacy Commissioner should any complaint be laid with that office. Subscribing to the List To subscribe to the NZNOG list, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz, where the body of the message reads subscribe nznog Digest Mailing List If you don't wish to receive postings as they are sent, you can instead subscribe to the nznog-digest mailiing list, on which all postings are sent out in a single "digest" every couple of days. Post-only Mailing List An address from which you wish to post, but which will not receive messages from the list, may be subscribed to nznog-postonly. You will presumably want to have another address subscribed to the main nznog list. Other Activities Thanks to Cisco and Juniper for the 2001 Christmas parties. The list administrator is likely to start in late January or early February seeking to twist arms in search of contributions for a conference in late June or early July 2002. Donald Neal NZNOG Mailing List Owner/Administrator/Muggins This email message is a public document. I don't speak for Telecom and they don't speak for me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ============================================================================== - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Te Aroha Autoresponse
by Mark Foster 31 Dec '01

31 Dec '01

Autoresponders SUCK when they respond to lists. *moan* At 21:05 1/01/2002 +1300, you wrote: >Hi There > >Thank you for your email. > >I will be on holiday until the 8th of January. If you require technical >assistance, please contact the helpdesk on the details that follow. Until >then, have a Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year! > >Regards > > >Te Aroha >Helpdesk Supervisor >Maxnet >PO Box 8006 >Auckland 1035 >http://www.maxnet.co.nz >support(a)maxnet.co.nz >Helpdesk: 09 300-7555 >General: 09 300-7222 >Fax: 09 300-7227 - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Fwd: Re: problems with NTP on bigben?
by Mark Foster 31 Dec '01

31 Dec '01

Dumbass that I am got the list addy wrong... >Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 21:13:54 +1300 >To: Dean Pemberton <dean(a)flatnet.gen.nz> >From: Mark Foster <blakjak(a)blakjak.net> >Subject: Re: problems with NTP on bigben? >Cc: nznog(a)lists.waikato.ac.nz > >Mine didnt. I hadnt checked untill it occurred to me that it might explain >the reason I got kicked off about 5 different irc networks simultaneously >at about 1 oclock.. > >I just checked it just now, with the date set at 2021 you get an 'invalid >arguement' error when trying to resynch.. i manually set it back and >resynched... > >phoenix:~# date 010121112002 >Tue Jan 1 21:11:00 NZDT 2002 >phoenix:~# ntpdate ntp.iconz.co.nz > 1 Jan 21:12:13 ntpdate[12973]: step time server 202.14.100.252 offset > -55.121430 sec > >guess my linux ntpdate isnt as good as yours :p > >Linux phoenix 2.2.17 #1 Sun Jun 25 09:24:41 EST 2000 i486 unknown > > >Mark. > > > >At 19:44 1/01/2002 +1300, you wrote: >>On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:21:00PM -0500, Joe Abley wrote: >> > >> > I just saw three other Trutime GPS units perform similar acrobatics. >> > bigben.clix.net.nz is a Trutime GPS clock. Looks (to me) more like a >> > Trutime bug than a generic GPS clock bug. >> >>Yep - just turned on my Garmin II+ and it looks fine. So I'm inclined to >>agree that it's a Trutime problem rather than a generic GPS issue. >> >>Also interesting to note that linux ntp just looked at bigben and said >>"PFFFT right - not believeing you anymore" and went to an anternate server. >> >>Good dog! >> >> >>Dean >>- >>To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >>where the body of your message reads: >>unsubscribe nznog - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Telecom Rentals to Go Up Because of too many Internet Calls
by Craig Whitmore 31 Dec '01

31 Dec '01

Just something I saw this morning that some people might be interested in. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=584153 Quote from the Article. "Deputy Prime Minister Jim Anderton said he was concerned that a small minority of people over-using their home internet connections had contributed to the latest rental increase." I guess the government is telling all NZers to use the Internet Less :-( Thanks Craig Whitmore Orcon Internet http://www.orcon.net.nz - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Re: Thanks
by Sue Leader 19 Dec '01

19 Dec '01

Hi Now that I'm subbed under new address......I tried to say yesterday: > Thanks Roger, for hosting the NZNOG Christmas event in Wellington last night. It was great to catch up with everyone away from work. Those chocolate strawberries were pretty good :-) My thanks also - good to put some faces to names. I'll give the list a call on the new IP phone once I've figured out how to plug it into my cellphone ;-) Cheers Sue > > > Regards / Ian <snip> Sue Leader - Executive Director InternetNZ Voice: +64-4-472-1600 Fax: +64-4-472-1207 Level 4, Hibernian Building, 89 Willis Street (P.O.Box 11-881) Wellington http://www.internetnz.net.nz - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Thanks
by Ian Quinn 18 Dec '01

18 Dec '01

Thanks Roger, for hosting the NZNOG Christmas event in Wellington last night. It was great to catch up with everyone away from work. Those chocolate strawberries were pretty good :-) Regards / Ian - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Final Reminder - NZNOG Xmas Special - Wellington
by Roger De Salis 16 Dec '01

16 Dec '01

> > Wellington When: Tuesday 18th December, 4pm onwards > > Where: Cisco, L8, ASB Tower, 2 Hunter St > > Who: As above > > RSVP to: moi Reminder to everyone, and a note to say I shall be a fraction late, probably get back to the office about 4.15pm... T-Shirts have arrived, and IP-Phone for the raffle is all packed up..... SO PLEASE BRING YOUR BUSINESS CARDS for the raffle /R -- \_ Roger De Salis rdesalis(a)cisco.com </' Cisco Systems NZ Ltd +64 25 481 452 /) L8, ASB Tower, 2 Hunter St +64 4 496 9003 (/ Wellington, New Zealand roger(a)desalis.gen.nz ` In October 2001, the 5th most important product line by value for Cisco is - the telephone. Cisco 79x0 IP telephones. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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Email from Real Networks (real-net.net).
by Simon Lyall 15 Dec '01

15 Dec '01

I've been having a little problem with these guys over the last couple of weeks. Basicly they send out an email to a huge number of customers (everybody who every registered their software). The problem is that at over 2000 over the @ihug.co.nz address are no longer active and the emails bounce. I don't care about the above but their machines that handle the bounces are totally overloaded so the bounces hang obout in my outgoing queue slowing things down (until I gave them their own queue entry). Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any luck getting real networks to bulk unsubscribe a few thousand addresses at a time. I don't want to block them or anything since presumably most legit customers who get this email want it. -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz ihug, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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RE: Found at Cisco Auckland after party......
by Kefyn Judson (ENZ) 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

Matthew G Brown wrote: You mean can dealers RIG the raffle and take the prizes home for extensive R&D Drat Dean, He found us out. I confess Matthew. I attempted to Rig it in Auckland so I won the first Cisco polo-shirt. Always wanted to know how those things worked!! :-) Regards Kefyn JUDSON Data Solutions Architect ERICSSON New Zealand * Phone: +64 9 3555 461 * Mobile: +61 21 535 331 * E-mail: kefyn.judson(a)ericsson.co.nz * SMS: kefyn(a)sms.judson.to

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RE: Archives of this List
by Stephen Andrew 10 Dec '01

10 Dec '01

> -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Neal [mailto:Donald.Neal(a)telecom.co.nz] > Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2001 09:32 > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: Archives of this List [snip] After reading Donald's email I found this tacked to the bottom: > > "WorldSecure Server <telecom.co.nz>" made the following > annotations on 12/11/01 09:31:41 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not > the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose > anything about it. Thank you." > ============================================================================ == As this is added to the *bottom* of the email how reasonable is it to expect people not to have read the email before getting there? Just wondering. -- Andrew J. Stephen Phone +64 4 496 4484 Team Leader, Network Operations Mobile +64 25 582 304 New Zealand Post Fax +64 4 496 4914 "Certainly, Windows XP is no Calista Flockhart. XP has so much pomp and circumstance that it's front-end weighs more than that of the cast of Baywatch." -- JonnyGURU, http://www.systemlogic.net/agurusworld/19/ This email with any attachments is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If it is not intended for you please reply immediately, destroy it and do not copy, disclose or use it in any way. - To unsubscribe from nznog, send email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz where the body of your message reads: unsubscribe nznog

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