Re: [nznog] Thoughts about IP Transit

I agree with UCE... I've started receiving a lot of it lately... not sure how they are getting around the laws, but I've been too lazy to report them. I also don't often mind if it is someone I know, but the amount of UCE in .au from players I've never heard of, claiming to be significant players is annoying. I think discussion about commercials only helps the community - if allowed (not under NDA). When did we become so paranoid about what the other guy is buying at that we avoid the discussion? I would suggest that avoiding discussion of the pricing of anything from transit, fibre, racks, etc... just serves the people selling it and keeps prices higher. Personally, I would like to know some of the pricing out there so that when I next go to buy some, I don't have to contact a dozen players, and miss out on deals which might be around, because let's be honest here... it isn't exactly something you just Google and get an easy answer. There is no marketplace or eBay for most ISP services. ...Skeeve *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.co.nz ; www.eintellegonetworks.co.nz Phone: +612 8014 7398; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; http://twitter.com/networkceoau linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Peter Mott wrote:

On 2/07/2014, at 6:49 pm, Joel van Velden wrote:

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This might be as good a time as any to introduce ourselves.

<snip blatant commercial advertisement>

Back in the day, any hint of self promotion or commercial discussion on this list was deemed evil.

I also received a similar email (unsolicited) sent to my email address earlier today.

Personally, I prefer to seek out services when I need them.

Folk who choose to send me UCE tend to go to the bottom of the list very quickly. I do this because (from my considerable experience) a person who does not respect my privacy, is unlikely to be a candidate for a long term professional relationship.

Am I getting too old for all of this, or have we crossed a line here?

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