Hello Again I've had a few options given to me - a mixture of router based solutions vs separate appliances On the router front the options given are: Cisco ASR1k/1001s Cisco SCE (Service Control Engines) Juniper J2320 Mikrotik And I've been informed that policing rather than shaping is the way to go using this type of solution On the appliance front we have: Allot NetEnforcers Allot Sigma http://www.allot.com/Products_Overview.html A few people recommended these - however I did have one reply stating that the GUI is Java based and horrible Sandvine DPI boxes http://www.sandvine.com/products/traffic_management.asp Exinda http://www1.exinda.com/ PacketShaper http://www.packeteer.com/ And there was one recommendation for software http://www.dmasoftlab.com/cont/home I'm currently leaning towards router based policing using J2320's which should be more than enough for our needs for the foreseeable future. It'll mean a slightly higher learning curve as I've only done basic JUNOS configuration before. My reasoning however is as follows 1) Having a single box handling the routing/policing means one less box to troubleshoot if any issues arise 2) JUNOS has a fairly logical layout, which while it takes a bit of getting used to is easier to read than ios - oh and the commit/rollback feature is also nice 3) The JUNOS web interface - while I prefer to work at the cli (I don't trust GUIs) the web interface is good for a quick glance to check for potential problems by those who don't have the cli skills 4) I need new routers anyway and have plans to redeploy my Cisco 2821s 5) $Price$ - easier to convince the boss to sign the cheque While not a contributing factor I am keen to improve my JUNOS skills, and in turn my overall routing knowledge Cheers again for all those who replied Kind Regards Jodi From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Jodi Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012 4:44 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] traffic shaping Thanks to all who sent advice and recommendations. Time for some 'light' reading over the weekend Hope you all enjoy yours :) Kind Regards Jodi From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Jodi Sent: Thursday, 8 March 2012 4:38 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] traffic shaping Hi All Currently we're running a couple of Packeteers (one for each of our upstreams) to give users a fair slice of the pie. However they're starting to wilt under the increased load and it's time to look at replacing. I've been looking around at some of the more popular appliances that I am aware of (Packeteer, Exinda, Netequalizer), however I don't want to buy a lemon. The other thought was to shape directly on the routers - have a couple of Cisco 2821's at our borders. I'm familiar with the shaping process but have never attempted on Cisco kit before so don't want to start down that path if it's the wrong way to go (especially as I would be the only one who could manage it and I like the occasional day off). My main focus to is to shape at the border by IP for different classes based on our plans e.g. burst to 4meg, 2meg dedicated, 2.5 burst to 10, etc Secondary to that is reporting and 3rdly QoS Any and all advice welcome, on and off list Cheers Jodi -- Jodi Thomson Network & Systems Engineer [Description: Description: Wasp New Zealand] Ph +64-6-8355800 Fax +64-6-8355811 Mob +64-21-903712 E-Mail jodi(a)team.waspnet.co.nz www.waspnet.co.nzhttp://www.waspnet.co.nz/