Re: [nznog] Cloudflare on the APE

Also remember that the hope is to have an international customer base on the exchanges. At the SIX our base is pretty diverse, and somewhat anecdotally we see: 1) Small players (no pejorative implied) - normally most don't care 2) Large players (no kudos implied) - don't want per-port stats 3) Carriers (insert "implieds") - don't want per-port stats Mike On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Dean Pemberton wrote:

It's all about knowing your customers and operating appropriately in different markets.

New Zealand may very well be the same as Seattle, or it could be different. I'd be interested to hear from some of the people peering at the AKL exchanges about their views on port stats. Michael makes a good point, but we know other areas where New Zealand businesses are a lot more relaxed about this sort of stuff than non-New Zealand businesses.

In the mean time have a big thumbs up for the aggregate stats! https://www.seattleix.net/agg.htm

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Seattle Internet Exchange (SIX) hat on

We provide aggregate throughput data, but we have always heard from the majority of our members that per-port usage graphs should not be made available. Any provider that doesn't disclose usage data, and there are many, will balk at having their port stats publicly available. In some cases, this disclosure is serious enough to preclude them from

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if said disclosure is required.

Mike

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Dean Pemberton wrote:

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They are indeed - Well done!!!

Here are the links for those interested in seeing examples.

http://www.ix.asn.au/peering.html http://monitor.nsw.ix.asn.au/cacti/graph_view.php

http://monitor.nsw.ix.asn.au/cacti/graph.php?local_graph_id=368&rra_id=all

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http://monitor.nsw.ix.asn.au/cacti/graph.php?local_graph_id=91&rra_id=all

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On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Joe Wooller wrote:

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Hey All

FWIW our peering graphs are made public.

Regards Joe

Sent from my iPhone

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On 2 Dec 2014, at 6:58 am, Dean Pemberton wrote:

That sounds like a great thing.

Cameron - my on-list feedback - This gets my vote. Put it on a

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website and it should be able to show a good amount of growth over time.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Tim Hoffman wrote:

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> On Dec 1, 2014, at 2:33 PM, Cameron Daniel > wrote: > >> On 2014-12-02 6:54 am, Jonathan Brewer wrote: >> Lucky for the community, Richard recorded all the NZNOG talks on >> WIX/APE over the years - including the ones where port utilisation >> questions were asked and the "commercially sensitive" response was >> given. >> >> https://www.google.com.sb/webhp?ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=site:www.r2.co.nz+NZNOG >> [2] >> Suggest NZIX get to it. >> -JB > > What about an opt-in or opt-out per port display? Totals aren't a big > deal but for the more sensitive types, being able to opt-out might be > enough? > > Currently looking at what we do for this kind of thing, interested in > on- or off-list feedback.

A fine idea.

It would be good if we can see both Citylink and Megaport come to

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Michael Smith wrote: participation public the

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party in the near future with providing graphs of at least their aggregate IX load, and if possible specific graphs of non-objecting peers also.

Cheers, Tim

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