Re: [nznog] TelstraVodaHug core lag

Not for me... Voda ADSL near Chch... 3 be3-100.bras1ctp.chc.vf.net.nz.129.109.203.in-addr.arpa (203.109.129.145) 21.380 ms 21.987 ms 22.691 ms 4 203-118-190-12.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (203.118.190.12) 23.536 ms 23.626 ms 23.876 ms 5 203-118-190-13.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (203.118.190.13) 25.989 ms 13.190.109.203.core.vf.net.nz (203.109.190.13) 26.125 ms 203-118-190-13.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz (203.118.190.13) 27.048 ms 6 te0-0-0-1.ppnzctp02.chc.vf.net.nz.182.109.203.in-addr.arpa (203.109.182.17) 27.734 ms 23.282 ms 23.941 ms 7 ggl-router.syd.vf.net.nz.130.109.203.in-addr.arpa (203.109.130.2) 136.410 ms 59.936 ms 116.548 ms 8 72.14.237.21 (72.14.237.21) 61.837 ms 59.950 ms 60.526 ms 9 google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8) 61.534 ms 62.472 ms 63.684 ms On Tue, 2013-09-17 at 10:07 +1200, Alexander Neilson wrote:

I can confirm the following from my home ADSL (Through my $DAYJOB, we have VodaClear as our main upstream provider)

3 113.197.97.1 (113.197.97.1) 24.178 ms 39.475 ms 23.745 ms 4 103.9.216.18 (103.9.216.18) 21.193 ms 21.312 ms 174.437 ms 5 103.9.216.17 (103.9.216.17) 21.224 ms 21.651 ms 21.355 ms 6 203.167.223.89 (203.167.223.89) 23.213 ms 21.759 ms 21.567 ms 7 gi1-2.akl-grafton-bdr2.ihug.net (203.109.130.33) 23.224 ms 23.269 ms 22.376 ms 8 * * * 9 tu20232901.akl-grafton-core1.ihug.net (203.109.130.6) 157.319 ms 163.857 ms 153.209 ms 10 209.85.249.5 (209.85.249.5) 174.993 ms 176.616 ms 209.85.249.3 (209.85.249.3) 154.141 ms 11 209.85.250.63 (209.85.250.63) 152.099 ms 209.85.250.66 (209.85.250.66) 151.924 ms 209.85.250.64 (209.85.250.64) 154.291 ms 12 216.239.49.198 (216.239.49.198) 174.872 ms 167.880 ms 72.14.232.63 (72.14.232.63) 336.555 ms 13 72.14.233.140 (72.14.233.140) 173.993 ms 72.14.233.200 (72.14.233.200) 175.369 ms 72.14.233.138 (72.14.233.138) 175.282 ms 14 216.239.48.167 (216.239.48.167) 194.713 ms 64.233.174.131 (64.233.174.131) 202.080 ms 216.239.48.167 (216.239.48.167) 202.312 ms 15 * * * 16 google-public-dns-a.google.com (8.8.8.8) 170.125 ms 341.309 ms 170.395 ms

I am positing (and I am by no means using any known info) that this could be a change related to the Vodafone ownership. Can anyone on "Vodafone" ADSL (actually from vodafone) or someone with a vodafone mobile (I can't check with mine for a little while) give us a trace route so we can see their path?

Regards Alexander

On 17/09/2013, at 9:59 AM, "Tony Wicks" wrote:

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If this isn't on topic (one of the major transit provides routing) nothing is and we should pack up the list and go home. One useful aspect of this list is to allow people to ask if an issue (perceived or otherwise) is a general one or just effects them or their providers. In this case, seeing as no one else has confirmed it for the OP, I can confirm that traffic to 8.8.8.8 via the Global Gateway, Vocus and CallPlus networks is still routing to Sydney at sub 30ms rates. I would suggest that the OP (and others if desired) might want to log a call with Vodafone and ask them to look at it.

cheers

-----Original Message----- From: Ben Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:31 AM To: JoelWirāmuPauling Cc: Nznog List Subject: Re: [nznog] TelstraVodaHug core lag

On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 09:12:22AM +1200, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote:

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Using anything at googles SDN managed ip network as a metric/benchmark is foolish at best.

My first thought was that this is kind of off-topic for NZNOG. But I think it would be valid information for what hosts are actually good to test to. And I don't know if there's any kind of worldwide list of sites that are ok with being monitored by a lot of people, and want to publicise...

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