Hi Tony, I don't really agree - there's no need to purchase a full protect path from a single system. SCCN and previously the PacRim cables have conditioned us to do so, but it's not necessary.
From Australia you have:
SCCN PPC1 AJC Endeavour as well as the new Perth to Singapore with Matrix/NextGen cable which gives you a very diverse ring via AAG (admittedly with Hawaii in the loop as well). PPC1/AJC can be combined with AAG at Guam as well for lower latency. So you can easily build a system either at the SDH, Wave or IP levels to provide protection to any capacity in the region. My point is that there are now enough options that there is significant flexibility with respect to how you might go about building your own protection. Especially given that a properly run network would attempt to purchase from as many cables as possible in order to ensure they have this protection. Internode currently purchases from four cable systems directly out of Australia in order to try and reduce our risk against system failure. MMC On 11/03/2010, at 12:23 PM, Tony Wicks wrote: Without the third leg (AU or Asia to USA) of the triangle (from the diagram on the website) it is of limited usefulness IMHO. I would have thought looking at the extremely successful design of SC would have been a good place to start. -----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Joe Abley Sent: Thursday, 11 March 2010 2:16 p.m. To: Joel Wiramu Pauling Cc: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] Fwd: [members-discuss] Pacific Fibre On 2010-03-10, at 20:12, Joel Wiramu Pauling wrote: This will interest people. Cost is estimated to be around 900 million NZ and to be operational by 2013. Not sure where it will land. That does seem interesting. However, if the goal is "unlimited high speed broadband for NZ and Australia" then it seems like it's only part of the puzzle -- the last mile still has to be dealt with. Joe _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nzmailto:NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you may not read, use, copy or disclose this email. If you are not the intended recipient, please let us know by reply e-mail immediately and then delete this email from your system. We shall not be responsible for any changes to, or interception of, this email or any attachment after it leaves our information systems. We accept no responsibility for viruses or defects in this email or any attachments. _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog -- Matthew Moyle-Croft Peering Manager and Team Lead - Commercial and DSLAMs Internode /Agile Level 5, 162 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia Email: mmc(a)internode.com.aumailto:mmc(a)internode.com.au Web: http://www.on.nethttp://www.on.net/ Direct: +61-8-8228-2909 Mobile: +61-419-900-366 Reception: +61-8-8228-2999 Fax: +61-8-8235-6909