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Jeremy Lawson

10 Sep 2012 10 Sep '12

6:53 a.m.

I was having some issues transferring to/from one of my Rackspace VPSs, so I run a few tests on speedtest.net from the VPS to various parts of NZ. I expect SOME difference, but these are outrageous. Basically: What the hell is going on in Christchurch? Ping 41ms - Wellington (CityLink) 167ms - Christchurch (Snap) 182 - Culverdon (Amuri Net) Download (transfer to Texas from NZ) 152.79 Mb/s - From Wellington 2.35 Mb/s - From Christchurch 1.99 Mb/s - From Culverdon Upload (transfer to NZ From Texas) 69.28 Mb/s - To Wellington 18.97 Mb/s - To Christchurch 7.48 Mb/s - To Culverdon Source: (each of these are the last of several similar results) http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171916814.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171913440.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171915443.png ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeremy Lawson

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Nathan Ward

10 Sep 10 Sep

6:58 a.m.

There's very little information about your tests here. What exact hosts are you trying to test to? I suspect you'll find that these numbers are correct, because Citylink have some anycast servers in the US. 41ms is certainly not the RTT from Texas to Wellington, it's more like 150ms, at a guess. So, "What the hell is going on in Christchurch?" - nothing. On 11/09/2012, at 11:53 AM, Jeremy Lawson wrote:

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I was having some issues transferring to/from one of my Rackspace VPSs, so I run a few tests on speedtest.net from the VPS to various parts of NZ.

I expect SOME difference, but these are outrageous. Basically: What the hell is going on in Christchurch?

Ping 41ms - Wellington (CityLink) 167ms - Christchurch (Snap) 182 - Culverdon (Amuri Net)

Download (transfer to Texas from NZ) 152.79 Mb/s - From Wellington 2.35 Mb/s - From Christchurch 1.99 Mb/s - From Culverdon

Upload (transfer to NZ From Texas) 69.28 Mb/s - To Wellington 18.97 Mb/s - To Christchurch 7.48 Mb/s - To Culverdon

Source: (each of these are the last of several similar results) http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171916814.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171913440.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171915443.png

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Sam Russell

7:04 a.m.

You'll be lucky to get 41ms from Sydney to Wellington Sent from my iPhone On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Nathan Ward wrote:

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There's very little information about your tests here. What exact hosts are you trying to test to?

I suspect you'll find that these numbers are correct, because Citylink have some anycast servers in the US.

41ms is certainly not the RTT from Texas to Wellington, it's more like 150ms, at a guess.

So, "What the hell is going on in Christchurch?" - nothing.

On 11/09/2012, at 11:53 AM, Jeremy Lawson wrote:

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I was having some issues transferring to/from one of my Rackspace VPSs, so I run a few tests on speedtest.net from the VPS to various parts of NZ.

I expect SOME difference, but these are outrageous. Basically: What the hell is going on in Christchurch?

Ping 41ms - Wellington (CityLink) 167ms - Christchurch (Snap) 182 - Culverdon (Amuri Net)

Download (transfer to Texas from NZ) 152.79 Mb/s - From Wellington 2.35 Mb/s - From Christchurch 1.99 Mb/s - From Culverdon

Upload (transfer to NZ From Texas) 69.28 Mb/s - To Wellington 18.97 Mb/s - To Christchurch 7.48 Mb/s - To Culverdon

Source: (each of these are the last of several similar results) http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171916814.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171913440.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171915443.png

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Liam Farr

7:10 a.m.

New subject: speedtest.net - Texas to Wellington vs. Texas to Christchurch

Perhaps you should call your ISP / service provider for support. This is a network operators group after all. -- Liam Farr +64-22-6107884 +64-27-5222626 Sent from my iPhone On 11/09/2012, at 12:04 PM, Sam Russell wrote:

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You'll be lucky to get 41ms from Sydney to Wellington

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Nathan Ward wrote:

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There's very little information about your tests here. What exact hosts are you trying to test to?

I suspect you'll find that these numbers are correct, because Citylink have some anycast servers in the US.

41ms is certainly not the RTT from Texas to Wellington, it's more like 150ms, at a guess.

So, "What the hell is going on in Christchurch?" - nothing.

On 11/09/2012, at 11:53 AM, Jeremy Lawson wrote:

...
I was having some issues transferring to/from one of my Rackspace VPSs, so I run a few tests on speedtest.net from the VPS to various parts of NZ.

I expect SOME difference, but these are outrageous. Basically: What the hell is going on in Christchurch?

Ping 41ms - Wellington (CityLink) 167ms - Christchurch (Snap) 182 - Culverdon (Amuri Net)

Download (transfer to Texas from NZ) 152.79 Mb/s - From Wellington 2.35 Mb/s - From Christchurch 1.99 Mb/s - From Culverdon

Upload (transfer to NZ From Texas) 69.28 Mb/s - To Wellington 18.97 Mb/s - To Christchurch 7.48 Mb/s - To Culverdon

Source: (each of these are the last of several similar results) http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171916814.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171913440.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171915443.png

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Don Gould

7:20 a.m.

I would really recommend www.geekzone.co.nz for this sort of general discussion. You might also consider joining Internet New Zealand and raising these sorts of issues there. If you're posting to this list then some detailed technical information really is required, such as trace routes from source and destinations so we can get some idea of where the issues might be. I suggest, as an operational list, we are very much interested in seeing the fastest Internet space from New Zealand that we can, but you do need to meet us half way with a detailed explanation of the technical issues so we can make some sort of informed comment. www.speedtest.net is not a good test tool for many reasons that can be found on Google if you're interested in performance testing. HTH. D On 11/09/2012 12:10 p.m., Liam Farr wrote:

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Perhaps you should call your ISP / service provider for support. This is a network operators group after all.

-- Liam Farr +64-22-6107884 +64-27-5222626

Sent from my iPhone

On 11/09/2012, at 12:04 PM, Sam Russell wrote:

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You'll be lucky to get 41ms from Sydney to Wellington

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Nathan Ward wrote:

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There's very little information about your tests here. What exact hosts are you trying to test to?

I suspect you'll find that these numbers are correct, because Citylink have some anycast servers in the US.

41ms is certainly not the RTT from Texas to Wellington, it's more like 150ms, at a guess.

So, "What the hell is going on in Christchurch?" - nothing.

On 11/09/2012, at 11:53 AM, Jeremy Lawson wrote:

...
I was having some issues transferring to/from one of my Rackspace VPSs, so I run a few tests on speedtest.net from the VPS to various parts of NZ.

I expect SOME difference, but these are outrageous. Basically: What the hell is going on in Christchurch?

Ping 41ms - Wellington (CityLink) 167ms - Christchurch (Snap) 182 - Culverdon (Amuri Net)

Download (transfer to Texas from NZ) 152.79 Mb/s - From Wellington 2.35 Mb/s - From Christchurch 1.99 Mb/s - From Culverdon

Upload (transfer to NZ From Texas) 69.28 Mb/s - To Wellington 18.97 Mb/s - To Christchurch 7.48 Mb/s - To Culverdon

Source: (each of these are the last of several similar results) http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171916814.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171913440.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171915443.png

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Ben Aitchison

7:16 a.m.

New subject: speedtest.net - Texas to Wellington vs. Texas to Christchurch

citylink speed test server is in multiple locations. I think it's kind of bad too as it's a kind of diagnostic tool. it's in at least wellington, auckland, and in the US somewhere. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:53:01AM +1200, Jeremy Lawson wrote:

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I was having some issues transferring to/from one of my Rackspace VPSs, so I run a few tests on speedtest.net from the VPS to various parts of NZ.

I expect SOME difference, but these are outrageous. Basically: What the hell is going on in Christchurch?

Ping 41ms - Wellington (CityLink) 167ms - Christchurch (Snap) 182 - Culverdon (Amuri Net)

Download (transfer to Texas from NZ) 152.79 Mb/s - From Wellington 2.35 Mb/s - From Christchurch 1.99 Mb/s - From Culverdon

Upload (transfer to NZ From Texas) 69.28 Mb/s - To Wellington 18.97 Mb/s - To Christchurch 7.48 Mb/s - To Culverdon

Source: (each of these are the last of several similar results) http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171916814.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171913440.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171915443.png

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Scott Howard

7:19 a.m.

I think the better question is what the hell is going on in Wellington!?!? Wellington to Texas is about 12,000 km, or about 24,000 km round trip. Light moves at about 3x10^8 metres/second through a vacuum cleaner (or is that just a vacuum?), or about 2/3rd's that speed through a piece of fiber optic cable. 24000 x 1000 / (3x10^8 x 2/3) = 0.12 So it takes about 120 milliseconds to get from Texas to Wellington and back - presuming a perfectly straight path. If you're seeing 41ms, then there's really only three possibilities : * Someone moved Wellington closer to the US * Someone moved Texas closer to NZ * Your testing is flawed. Scott On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Jeremy Lawson wrote:

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I was having some issues transferring to/from one of my Rackspace VPSs, so I run a few tests on speedtest.net from the VPS to various parts of NZ.

I expect SOME difference, but these are outrageous. Basically: What the hell is going on in Christchurch?

Ping 41ms - Wellington (CityLink) 167ms - Christchurch (Snap) 182 - Culverdon (Amuri Net)

Download (transfer to Texas from NZ) 152.79 Mb/s - From Wellington 2.35 Mb/s - From Christchurch 1.99 Mb/s - From Culverdon

Upload (transfer to NZ From Texas) 69.28 Mb/s - To Wellington 18.97 Mb/s - To Christchurch 7.48 Mb/s - To Culverdon

Source: (each of these are the last of several similar results) http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171916814.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171913440.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171915443.png

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Dean Pemberton

11:50 a.m.

Or option 4 Different Wellington. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wellington,_Texas On Tuesday, September 11, 2012, Scott Howard wrote:

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I think the better question is what the hell is going on in Wellington!?!?

Wellington to Texas is about 12,000 km, or about 24,000 km round trip.

Light moves at about 3x10^8 metres/second through a vacuum cleaner (or is that just a vacuum?), or about 2/3rd's that speed through a piece of fiber optic cable.

24000 x 1000 / (3x10^8 x 2/3) = 0.12

So it takes about 120 milliseconds to get from Texas to Wellington and back - presuming a perfectly straight path.

If you're seeing 41ms, then there's really only three possibilities : * Someone moved Wellington closer to the US * Someone moved Texas closer to NZ * Your testing is flawed.

Scott

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:53 PM, Jeremy Lawson

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wrote:

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I was having some issues transferring to/from one of my Rackspace VPSs, so I run a few tests on speedtest.net from the VPS to various parts of NZ.

I expect SOME difference, but these are outrageous. Basically: What the hell is going on in Christchurch?

Ping 41ms - Wellington (CityLink) 167ms - Christchurch (Snap) 182 - Culverdon (Amuri Net)

Download (transfer to Texas from NZ) 152.79 Mb/s - From Wellington 2.35 Mb/s - From Christchurch 1.99 Mb/s - From Culverdon

Upload (transfer to NZ From Texas) 69.28 Mb/s - To Wellington 18.97 Mb/s - To Christchurch 7.48 Mb/s - To Culverdon

Source: (each of these are the last of several similar results) http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171916814.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171913440.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171915443.png

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Nathan Ward

7:20 a.m.

I got bored and played on Wolfram Alpha for a bit: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2+*+%28%28distance+from+Auckland+to+Wel... + delay caused by routers, fibre not going in straight lines, etc. On 11/09/2012, at 11:53 AM, Jeremy Lawson wrote:

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I was having some issues transferring to/from one of my Rackspace VPSs, so I run a few tests on speedtest.net from the VPS to various parts of NZ.

I expect SOME difference, but these are outrageous. Basically: What the hell is going on in Christchurch?

Ping 41ms - Wellington (CityLink) 167ms - Christchurch (Snap) 182 - Culverdon (Amuri Net)

Download (transfer to Texas from NZ) 152.79 Mb/s - From Wellington 2.35 Mb/s - From Christchurch 1.99 Mb/s - From Culverdon

Upload (transfer to NZ From Texas) 69.28 Mb/s - To Wellington 18.97 Mb/s - To Christchurch 7.48 Mb/s - To Culverdon

Source: (each of these are the last of several similar results) http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171916814.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171913440.png http://www.speedtest.net/result/2171915443.png

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