Hi all, Given the handover options from Chorus for UFB ( http://www.chorus.co.nz/file/1591), does anybody have any recommendations about a cost effective GE based node that can do QinQ happily? Port density probably only needs to be 2-4 ports. Control/forwarding redundancy not required. And, preferably with the capability to set individual policers and/or queue rates on each sub-interface. I don't know if chorus give you the option to do the rate limiting for you or not - does anybody know? Cheers, Anton
If your after "cheep cheep" look at Mikrotik Routerboard, they have many
different options of CPU vs port density.
I haven't had much trouble with them, I use them everywhere - be wary of
crappy wall-wart PSUs that's the only trouble I've had.
Otherwise I'll leave to other people to respond about what other
manufacturers would be interested in helping you part with significantly
more money. :-)
Cheers
Rob
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Anton Smith
Hi all,
Given the handover options from Chorus for UFB ( http://www.chorus.co.nz/file/1591), does anybody have any recommendations about a cost effective GE based node that can do QinQ happily? Port density probably only needs to be 2-4 ports. Control/forwarding redundancy not required.
And, preferably with the capability to set individual policers and/or queue rates on each sub-interface.
I don't know if chorus give you the option to do the rate limiting for you or not - does anybody know?
Cheers, Anton
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The Alcatel-Lucent 7210 range may be ok for what you want. The QoS features are cut down from the bigger 7450 or 7750 boxes but should be ok for per-queue and per-sub interface.
However the 7210 devices will cost more than Mikrotik...
Jonathon
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If your after "cheep cheep" look at Mikrotik Routerboard, they have many different options of CPU vs port density.
I haven't had much trouble with them, I use them everywhere - be wary of crappy wall-wart PSUs that's the only trouble I've had.
Otherwise I'll leave to other people to respond about what other manufacturers would be interested in helping you part with significantly more money. :-)
Cheers
Rob
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Anton Smith
I've not read the details of the UFB handover, but assuming it's similar to HSNS and EUBA we have two ways of handling them. On one hand-over we're using a Linux box. We're using the bridging code to combine one or more Chorus vlans into a bridge which we then put on a different interface out to our main network. We've got this going with single stacked (HSNS) and double stacked (EUBA) services. On our other hand-over we're using a Cisco ME3600. We're using a service-instance per customer to map them into a bridge-domain. We've only tested this with single stacked services but I believe it should work with double stacked. In both cases we're not doing any fancy queuing, instead relying on Chorus to do the rate-limiting for us. Also, we're interested in providing an end-to-end layer 2 service only which may make our requirements somewhat different than the average service provider :) Happy to provide config snippets for any of the above if it helps. Dylan On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 16:12 +0000, Anton Smith wrote:
Hi all,
Given the handover options from Chorus for UFB (http://www.chorus.co.nz/file/1591), does anybody have any recommendations about a cost effective GE based node that can do QinQ happily? Port density probably only needs to be 2-4 ports. Control/forwarding redundancy not required.
And, preferably with the capability to set individual policers and/or queue rates on each sub-interface.
I don't know if chorus give you the option to do the rate limiting for you or not - does anybody know?
Cheers, Anton
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Thanks Dylan and everybody else for the excellent feedback.
I think I have gained quite a few good ideas on a node to use for this
purpose. If anybody has information on the performance (PPS scaling) on the
mikrotiks that would be of interest.
If anybody has information on 2nd hand 7710s from ALU also that would be
interesting (and for that matter, cisco 72xx, juniper m5/7x, or the newer
boxes as Dylan mentioned like the ME3600, including any required license/sw
costs).
Thanks again,
Anton
On 21 December 2011 22:05, Dylan Hall
** I've not read the details of the UFB handover, but assuming it's similar to HSNS and EUBA we have two ways of handling them.
On one hand-over we're using a Linux box. We're using the bridging code to combine one or more Chorus vlans into a bridge which we then put on a different interface out to our main network. We've got this going with single stacked (HSNS) and double stacked (EUBA) services.
On our other hand-over we're using a Cisco ME3600. We're using a service-instance per customer to map them into a bridge-domain. We've only tested this with single stacked services but I believe it should work with double stacked.
In both cases we're not doing any fancy queuing, instead relying on Chorus to do the rate-limiting for us. Also, we're interested in providing an end-to-end layer 2 service only which may make our requirements somewhat different than the average service provider :)
Happy to provide config snippets for any of the above if it helps.
Dylan
On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 16:12 +0000, Anton Smith wrote:
Hi all,
Given the handover options from Chorus for UFB ( http://www.chorus.co.nz/file/1591), does anybody have any recommendations about a cost effective GE based node that can do QinQ happily? Port density probably only needs to be 2-4 ports. Control/forwarding redundancy not required.
And, preferably with the capability to set individual policers and/or queue rates on each sub-interface.
I don't know if chorus give you the option to do the rate limiting for you or not - does anybody know?
Cheers,
Anton
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On 22/12/2011 12:02 p.m., Anton Smith wrote:
If anybody has information on the performance (PPS scaling) on the mikrotiks that would be of interest.
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