It's ironic that my inbox is getting spammed with stuff about spam :) We all know spam blacklisting is ghey and pointless because it causes more problems than it fixes, so must we really hear the same shit all over again? Please stfu now. Kthx. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Weeks [mailto:surfer(a)mauigateway.com] Sent: Friday, 19 May 2006 8:23 a.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] SORBS still listing Telecom static IPs as dynamic... ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Jamie Riden"

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No other blacklist operates like - or generates the hate - that S(ORBS) does.

Actually, I've seen people say that and worse about every single blacklist including SBL, which is probably the most conservative one, all the way back to the MAPS original.

They all say that if you're not a spammer, you have to pay LOTS of money to people they tell you to pay to be delisted? http://www.au.sorbs.net/faq/spamdb.shtml "Third and finally, if you are really not a spammer, or you are truly reformed, de-listing is relatively easy. You donate US$50 to a charity or trust approved by, and not connected with, SORBS for each spam received related to the listing. This is referred to as the SORBS 'fine'." scott _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

On 19/05/06, Scott Weeks wrote:

----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Jamie Riden"

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No other blacklist operates like - or generates the hate - that S(ORBS) does.

Actually, I've seen people say that and worse about every single blacklist including SBL, which is probably the most conservative one, all the way back to the MAPS original.

They all say that if you're not a spammer, you have to pay LOTS of money to people they tell you to pay to be delisted?

The DUL doesn't work like that : "The general rules of delisting are as follows: The Regional Internet Registry (RIR) Point of Contact (PoC) can request a listing or delisting of any address in their space. The only time this will be refused is when the netblock information in the RIR or in the reverse DNS naming clearly indicates the addresses are dynamically assigned (e.g. 0.1.pool.example.com). Anyone else may request delisting of addresses or netblocks provided that reverse DNS naming is set to indicate static assignment." -- http://www.au.sorbs.net/faq/dul.shtml Please note, I do note recommend using dul.dnsbl.sorbs.net to reject mail. It will block 'legitimate' mail. -- Jamie Riden / jamesr(a)europe.com / jamie.riden(a)computer.org NZ Honeynet project - http://www.nz-honeynet.org/