Is there anyone from Orcon technical subscribed to this list who could contact me offlist please? Cheers Keith
Maybe someone from all the ISPs listed on http://www.nznog.org/noc-list should get them updated (If they are not correct) I know personally a lot of the information is incorrect now a days -----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Keith Davidson Sent: Monday, 2 March 2015 4:40 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Orcon Helpdesk Is there anyone from Orcon technical subscribed to this list who could contact me offlist please? Cheers Keith _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog
Might help if the list curator actually updated the list when asked. Have submitted two updates in the last 12 months and had no response whatsoever. It's hard to maintain the credibility of such a list when it's effectively abandoned. Perhaps it should be converted to a wiki and moderated by the community instead of an individual? My $0.02, Tim
On 2/03/2015, at 5:05 pm, Craig Whitmore
wrote: Maybe someone from all the ISPs listed on http://www.nznog.org/noc-list should get them updated (If they are not correct)
I know personally a lot of the information is incorrect now a days
-----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Keith Davidson Sent: Monday, 2 March 2015 4:40 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Orcon Helpdesk
Is there anyone from Orcon technical subscribed to this list who could contact me offlist please?
Cheers
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An alternative or additional list I’d suggest you all join is of course PeeringDB. Those who attended a couple of the talks at NZNOG’15 will know its general value for various parties determining who is peering where, but also how to get in contact with the various peering parties. Orcon themselves do have an active PeeringDB entry, last updated in January 2015. https://www.peeringdb.com/private/participant_view.php?id=6869 https://www.peeringdb.com/private/participant_view.php?id=6869 Cheers, neil
On 2/03/2015, at 5:34 pm, Tim Price
wrote: Might help if the list curator actually updated the list when asked. Have submitted two updates in the last 12 months and had no response whatsoever. It's hard to maintain the credibility of such a list when it's effectively abandoned. Perhaps it should be converted to a wiki and moderated by the community instead of an individual?
My $0.02,
Tim
On 2/03/2015, at 5:05 pm, Craig Whitmore
wrote: Maybe someone from all the ISPs listed on http://www.nznog.org/noc-list should get them updated (If they are not correct)
I know personally a lot of the information is incorrect now a days
-----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Keith Davidson Sent: Monday, 2 March 2015 4:40 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Orcon Helpdesk
Is there anyone from Orcon technical subscribed to this list who could contact me offlist please?
Cheers
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+1
Peering DB is an excellent resource and I am favour of using it over a NZNog created Wiki/Web page.
It’s selfservice/easy to edit and displays a lot of useful information.
We have 3 entries for the Callplus Group.
http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=4610
http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=17746 (We will be retiring this AS number soon)
http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=9790
I highly recommend more NZ providers making use of this tool.
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The NZNOG NOC list is still useful. The downside of the Peering DB page is that it asks that only peering partners request access.
Sometimes it is useful for a non-peering partner to get the NOC contact details of an organisation.
Jonathon Exley | Network Specialist Layer 2
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Anyone with an ASN can register for peeringdb. This is the worldwide
standard. I suggest that everyone use it. If you do not have an ASN, it is
likely inappropriate for you to contact people on either a NOC list or a
peeringdb page.
Tim
On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Jonathon Exley wrote: The NZNOG NOC list is still useful. The downside of the Peering DB page
is that it asks that only peering partners request access. Sometimes it is useful for a non-peering partner to get the NOC contact
details of an organisation. Jonathon Exley *|* Network Specialist Layer 2 Chorus *|* *T : *+6448964190 *| **M :*+64275148048 *From:* nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:
nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] *On Behalf Of *Simon Allard
*Sent:* Tuesday, 3 March 2015 9:35 a.m.
*To:* *Subject:* Re: [nznog] Orcon Helpdesk +1 Peering DB is an excellent resource and I am favour of using it over a
NZNog created Wiki/Web page. It’s selfservice/easy to edit and displays a lot of useful information. We have 3 entries for the Callplus Group. http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=4610 http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=17746 (We will be retiring this AS
number soon) http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=9790 I highly recommend more NZ providers making use of this tool. *Simon* *Allard* // Senior Network Architect *D:* 09 550 2790* M:* 020 100 0790* F:* www.callplus.co.nz | www.slingshot.co.nz | www.flip.co.nz |
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mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz An alternative or additional list I’d suggest you all join is of course
PeeringDB. Those who attended a couple of the talks at NZNOG’15 will know
its general value for various parties determining who is peering where, but
also how to get in contact with the various peering parties. Orcon themselves do have an active PeeringDB entry, last updated in
January 2015. https://www.peeringdb.com/private/participant_view.php?id=6869 Cheers, neil On 2/03/2015, at 5:34 pm, Tim Price Might help if the list curator actually updated the list when asked. Have
submitted two updates in the last 12 months and had no response whatsoever.
It's hard to maintain the credibility of such a list when it's effectively
abandoned. Perhaps it should be converted to a wiki and moderated by the
community instead of an individual? My $0.02, Tim On 2/03/2015, at 5:05 pm, Craig Whitmore Maybe someone from all the ISPs listed on http://www.nznog.org/noc-list
should get them updated (If they are not correct) I know personally a lot of the information is incorrect now a days -----Original Message-----
From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
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Hi Jonathon
There is a guest/guest login, which probably suits the needs for non-peering partners who want contact details.
From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Jonathon Exley
Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2015 9:48 a.m.
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Also you can refer directly via the URL: eg. http://as16509.peeringdb.com http://as16509.peeringdb.com/ which requires no login or mucking around. MMC
On 2 Mar 2015, at 12:58 pm, Simon Allard
wrote: Hi Jonathon
There is a guest/guest login, which probably suits the needs for non-peering partners who want contact details.
From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Jonathon Exley Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2015 9:48 a.m. To:
mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] Orcon Helpdesk The NZNOG NOC list is still useful. The downside of the Peering DB page is that it asks that only peering partners request access. Sometimes it is useful for a non-peering partner to get the NOC contact details of an organisation.
Jonathon Exley | Network Specialist Layer 2
Chorus | T : +6448964190 | M :+64275148048 From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Simon Allard Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2015 9:35 a.m. To:
mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] Orcon Helpdesk +1
Peering DB is an excellent resource and I am favour of using it over a NZNog created Wiki/Web page.
It’s selfservice/easy to edit and displays a lot of useful information.
We have 3 entries for the Callplus Group.
http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=4610 http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=4610 http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=17746 http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=17746 (We will be retiring this AS number soon) http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=9790 http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=9790
I highly recommend more NZ providers making use of this tool.
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mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: Re: [nznog] Orcon Helpdesk An alternative or additional list I’d suggest you all join is of course PeeringDB. Those who attended a couple of the talks at NZNOG’15 will know its general value for various parties determining who is peering where, but also how to get in contact with the various peering parties.
Orcon themselves do have an active PeeringDB entry, last updated in January 2015.
https://www.peeringdb.com/private/participant_view.php?id=6869 https://www.peeringdb.com/private/participant_view.php?id=6869
Cheers,
neil
On 2/03/2015, at 5:34 pm, Tim Price
mailto:tim(a)initech.co.nz> wrote: Might help if the list curator actually updated the list when asked. Have submitted two updates in the last 12 months and had no response whatsoever. It's hard to maintain the credibility of such a list when it's effectively abandoned. Perhaps it should be converted to a wiki and moderated by the community instead of an individual?
My $0.02,
Tim
On 2/03/2015, at 5:05 pm, Craig Whitmore
mailto:lennon(a)orcon.net.nz> wrote: Maybe someone from all the ISPs listed on http://www.nznog.org/noc-list http://www.nznog.org/noc-list should get them updated (If they are not correct)
I know personally a lot of the information is incorrect now a days
-----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Keith Davidson Sent: Monday, 2 March 2015 4:40 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz mailto:nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Orcon Helpdesk
Is there anyone from Orcon technical subscribed to this list who could contact me offlist please?
Cheers
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Also, if it's an urgent matter then APNIC requires members to have IRT
"Incident Response Team" contact information in the Whois.
So that's something else to try
On Tuesday, 3 March 2015, Jonathon Exley
The NZNOG NOC list is still useful. The downside of the Peering DB page is that it asks that only peering partners request access.
Sometimes it is useful for a non-peering partner to get the NOC contact details of an organisation.
Jonathon Exley *|* Network Specialist Layer 2
Chorus *|* *T : *+6448964190 *| **M :*+64275148048
*From:* nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz'); [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz');] *On Behalf Of *Simon Allard *Sent:* Tuesday, 3 March 2015 9:35 a.m. *To:*
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz');> *Subject:* Re: [nznog] Orcon Helpdesk +1
Peering DB is an excellent resource and I am favour of using it over a NZNog created Wiki/Web page.
It’s selfservice/easy to edit and displays a lot of useful information.
We have 3 entries for the Callplus Group.
http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=4610
http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=17746 (We will be retiring this AS number soon)
http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=9790
I highly recommend more NZ providers making use of this tool.
*Simon* *Allard* // Senior Network Architect
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javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz');> *Subject:* Re: [nznog] Orcon Helpdesk An alternative or additional list I’d suggest you all join is of course PeeringDB. Those who attended a couple of the talks at NZNOG’15 will know its general value for various parties determining who is peering where, but also how to get in contact with the various peering parties.
Orcon themselves do have an active PeeringDB entry, last updated in January 2015.
https://www.peeringdb.com/private/participant_view.php?id=6869
Cheers,
neil
On 2/03/2015, at 5:34 pm, Tim Price
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tim(a)initech.co.nz');> wrote: Might help if the list curator actually updated the list when asked. Have submitted two updates in the last 12 months and had no response whatsoever. It's hard to maintain the credibility of such a list when it's effectively abandoned. Perhaps it should be converted to a wiki and moderated by the community instead of an individual?
My $0.02,
Tim
On 2/03/2015, at 5:05 pm, Craig Whitmore
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lennon(a)orcon.net.nz');> wrote: Maybe someone from all the ISPs listed on http://www.nznog.org/noc-list should get them updated (If they are not correct)
I know personally a lot of the information is incorrect now a days
-----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz'); [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz');] On Behalf Of Keith Davidson Sent: Monday, 2 March 2015 4:40 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz'); Subject: [nznog] Orcon Helpdesk
Is there anyone from Orcon technical subscribed to this list who could contact me offlist please?
Cheers
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Hi Tim,
It's not abandoned. The conference in February I hope was evidence of that.
It's just that your email on 5/12/14 got missed. I don't know where you get
the idea it's an individual but the NZNOG trustees would probably welcome
more folks helping us admin/curate NZNOG content. If people have got time
to give and care to take then sing out to info(a)nznog.org. We'd welcome any
constructive contributions :-) (similarly any inaccuracies in the NOC list).
Your updates have been applied FWIW.
Neil's suggestion on peeringdb is good too. The NZNOG NOC list covers
downstreams (to a point) as well.
cheers
Jamie
On 2 March 2015 at 17:34, Tim Price
Might help if the list curator actually updated the list when asked. Have submitted two updates in the last 12 months and had no response whatsoever. It's hard to maintain the credibility of such a list when it's effectively abandoned. Perhaps it should be converted to a wiki and moderated by the community instead of an individual?
My $0.02,
Tim
On 2/03/2015, at 5:05 pm, Craig Whitmore
wrote: Maybe someone from all the ISPs listed on http://www.nznog.org/noc-list should get them updated (If they are not correct)
I know personally a lot of the information is incorrect now a days
-----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Keith Davidson Sent: Monday, 2 March 2015 4:40 p.m. To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: [nznog] Orcon Helpdesk
Is there anyone from Orcon technical subscribed to this list who could contact me offlist please?
Cheers
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Craig Whitmore
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Dean Pemberton
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Jamie Baddeley
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Jonathon Exley
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Keith Davidson
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Matthew Moyle-Croft
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Neil Fenemor
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Simon Allard
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Tim Hoffman
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Tim Price