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RE: [nznog] Net4u - Stealing bandwidth etc.
by phuct_up＠msn.com 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

Hi I quit NET4U after hearing news of this stealing bandwidth, recorded a phone call with Sahil, took the call to the herald. Which is why it was printed at all, so dont go bitching about me being involved in this. I wasn't in anyway involved in it. Quite frankly I think Sahil is ripping everyone off, including his staff. thanks, Will _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

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Re: [nznog] Net4u - Stealing bandwidth etc.
by rye a 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

Ha, i wish i did. I regret not keeping one now, had i known this all would have led to a herald artical, and a post to nznog, i would have made sure i logged it. Didnt think too much of it at the time figured they were just idiots bragging about bullshit.. The only problem, there's no course of justice for this kind of thing is there? net4u will get away scott free? --- Matthew Luckie <mjl(a)luckie.org.nz> wrote: > > either way guys, word of advice.. if your ripping > > people off.. dont go bragging about it on irc. I > > do you have a log you can post to nznog? sounds > very interesting (and on > topic). __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com

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Net4u - Stealing bandwidth etc.
by Liz Quilty 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

I worked for Sahil when he first started out. I left within 6 months because he didnt know anything about what the hell he was doing and kept fucking things up majorly. He was 15 at the time. I know of several other 'employees' whom did work and also did not get paid. His servers were rediculasly insecure and badley configured most of the time and he often made friends of other ISP's and tried getting customer databases. He would intentionally poach Users. Good that it has cought up with him ;] Liz

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Re: Welcome to the "Nznog" mailing list
by Ste Taylor 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

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Net4u - Stealing bandwidth etc.
by David Clarke 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

> It may have been an open web proxy only, not capable of > abusing SMTP or IRC. Quote from the Herald article: "He goes on to say that Net4U services, including his dial-up and server co-location customers, his "home link" and his "KaZaA" ... were all operated with stolen bandwidth for a "six-month" period." That reference to KaZaA would intimate that it wasn't merely web. Of course we possibly shouldn't believe the word of someone who'd stoop to stealing bandwidth. -- David Clarke Tech :wq #include <disclaimer.h>

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Re: [nznog] Net4u - Stealing bandwidth etc.
by rye a 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

a staff member from net4u was bragging on irc the other day about the jetstream bandwidth issue. what they are doing is authenticating jetstream starter users (fastip) as jetstream users (fastipdirect). I think this is most likely a screwup on telecom/net4u's behalf.. perhaps their account manager set it up this way for a reason? perhaps net4u ask for jetstream ports instead of jetstream starter? either way guys, word of advice.. if your ripping people off.. dont go bragging about it on irc. I believe the staff member in question was only 14 years old. What possible use could he have been? He was also in the news recently, related to the captain bob spam fiasco.. cheers __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com

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net4u staff spammer
by rye a 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?thesection=technology&thesubsect… The latter of the guys mentioned in the above story i believe works at net4u. He is the helpdesk manager. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com

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Net4u - Stealing bandwidth etc.
by Simon Lyall 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

Looks like the herald is breaking all the interesting stories lately: http://tinyurl.com/82j8 I can understand Callplus having problems since they have been struggling with inexperienced staff for a few months (although 6 months is before the most recent resignations) but I'm not sure how the Jetstream/Jetstart thing would have worked. I've yet to see Telecom lose money when people get Jetstream relms confused. -- Simon Lyall. | Newsmaster | Work: simon.lyall(a)ihug.co.nz Senior Network/System Admin | Postmaster | Home: simon(a)darkmere.gen.nz Ihug Ltd, Auckland, NZ | Asst Doorman | Web: http://www.darkmere.gen.nz

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Re: [nznog] Net4u - Stealing bandwidth etc.
by rye a 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

Its still very shocking that ISP's in new zealand would do this to each other.. I understand its a very tight market.. but still.. Are other isp's doing similar things? ha, i doubt anyone would admit it.. but i'd assume so.. Lets have a nationwide net4u boycot! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Poole" <matt(a)p00le.net> To: "Craig Spiers" <craig(a)concept.net.nz> Cc: <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [nznog] Net4u - Stealing bandwidth etc. > > > yea, you can imagine how many spammers would have found that proxy, and used > > it.. surely someone at attica/callplus got notification that it was open.. > > > Not while I was there. I've been gone three-and-a-half months now, > so it's quite possible they got told since then. > > > Spammers find open proxy's in a matter of hours these days.. perhaps staff > > recieved the notifications, but didnt give a dam? > > > Or they weren't able to figure out what the warning meant and ignored > it? > An open proxy would definitely have been brought to my attention as > all security issues came across my desk, and I never saw any such > notification. > > Not to mention that someone would've bitched if we'd been > blacklisted and while that did happen it was by a couple of companies > as a serious over-reaction to dodgy activity by customers. > -- > Matthew Poole > Auckland, NZ > > http://www.p00le.net > > "Three pills a day keeps the voices at bay" > Matthew Poole > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com

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Heads up for anyone using SpamCop
by Aaron Nielsen 24 Mar '03

24 Mar '03

One of InternetNZ's servers is currently listed in SpamCop. Looks like a server in the UK processed a couple of the DNC's emails sent out to registrants :0 Aaron

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