March 2003 - NZNOG - lists.nznog.org

RE: [nznog] "Captain Bob" and "^god"
by Stephen Andrew 22 Mar '03

22 Mar '03

----Original Message---- From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] Sent: Friday, 21 March 2003 10:36 AM To: Simon Lyall; nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] "Captain Bob" and "^god" [snip] > "The overheads are minimal. Captain Bob pays about $300 a month to > maintain his server. He runs a Jetstart account ($65) to connect to > his server which in turn connects to a high-capacity pipe out to the > web." > > Out to the Web? Not to mail servers? A lot of SPAM is now going through misconfigured proxy servers using the CONNECT method. Apparently open mail relays don't cut it any more. -- Andrew This email with any attachments is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If it is not intended for you please reply immediately, destroy it and do not copy, disclose or use it in any way.

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"Captain Bob" and "^god"
by Juha Saarinen 21 Mar '03

21 Mar '03

http://tinyurl.com/7ut8 So that's what kids use their Jetstart connections for... ? -- Juha Saarinen

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"Captain Bob" and "^god"
by Liz Quilty 21 Mar '03

21 Mar '03

Do something like mac addresses? so you can identify a computer rather than the person? make them log into a wan or something even? Liz Sure, that'd be a great method - wouldn't stop them completely though as they could always establish a new account under a false or someone elses name. Edward ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert McDonald" <rob(a)nzpages.net> To: "Eon" <Eon(a)sli.net.nz>; "Stephen Judd" <nznog(a)vital.org.nz> Cc: <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [nznog] "Captain Bob" and "^god" IANAL (uses new catch phrase) Why not supply ALL the customers details (or as much as known) in a (forced to lower case) MD5SUM. Generaly they would not use the same username. If the telcos suplying DSL/other would take advice from the ISPs that the particular user was troublesome or breached a commonly agreed to T&C they would get their delivery method (what ever it may be) terminated. Having for instance your DSL line choped of, even for a month or two, would have a huge impact. IMHO, Rob On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 19:38, Eon wrote: > Why not MD5SUM the name of the user? Provide that to a list and any users > with the same MD5 > are not given service? Protects the privacy of people and sticks it to > those that Spam. I may not be the > best of internet users but even I agreee that spamers need to be stopped. > > Eon. -- -------------- Robert McDonald NZPages.Net Web Services Ph: 021 1770061 ICQ: 86984875 http://www.nzpages.net _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog _______________________________________________ Nznog mailing list Nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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key signing party at Uniforum
by Joe Abley 21 Mar '03

21 Mar '03

If I was to organise a PGP key signing party at the NZNOG/Uniforum meeting in July, would anybody here show up? Private replies welcome. Just trying to decide whether or not to bother trying :) [this is the kind of thing I am talking about: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0110/pgp.html http://www1.ietf.org/mail-archive/ietf/Current/msg18089.html http://www.upenn.edu/computing/security/keyparty.html http://www.nluug.nl/events/sane98/keysigning-party.html in case the concept is not familiar]

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Heads up - LOTR STreaming Event
by Richard Naylor 18 Mar '03

18 Mar '03

CityLink is assisting with the streaming of a Video Conference between Richard Taylor (Weta FX) and a number of schools on Wednesday. The event co-ordinators (TKI) have emailed a number of schools and hence this heads up. There is the potential for a large number of unicast streams from WIX on Wednesday morning 12 March between 10am and 11am. Here is the publicity material from TKI for those interested. Kia ora koutou TKI invites you to join us for the live video conference featuring Richard Taylor - the Oscar-winning special effects expert from the Lord of the Rings. This Wednesday between 10 and 11am, selected KAWM and Otago Net schools will be participating in a video-conference based conversation with Richard. To watch the live simulcast, click on the link below: http://www.tki.org.nz/r/school_improvement/climate/intro_taylor_e.php -------------- ABOUT THE VIDEO CONFERENCE The schools involved in the Richard Taylor video conference are: Turakina Maori Girls' College (Marton) Rotorua Lakes High (Rotorua) John Paul College (Rotorua) Rotorua Girls High (Rotorua) Mount Aspiring College (Wanaka) Te Waha o Rerekohu Area School (Gisborne) Te Wharekura o Rakaumanga (Huntly) Te Kura Kaupapa Maori o Mana Tamariki (Palmerston North) Each of the schools will make a presentation to Richard on the theme "special effects". The students were guided by activities suggested in a teaching resource developed by the Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa to complement The Lord of the Rings Motion Picture Trilogy - The Exhibition. ------------ ABOUT RICHARD TAYLOR Richard Taylor is the co-founder and director of Weta Workshop Ltd, the special effects company best known for its work on The Lord of the Rings film trilogy. Weta designed and produced all the weapons, armour, creatures, makeup, and miniature models for the film production.

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RE: [nznog] Netforum 2003 (and 2004??)
by Donald Neal 14 Mar '03

14 Mar '03

> From: Roger De Salis [mailto:roger(a)desalis.gen.nz] > Sent: Sunday, 9 March 2003 20:10 > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz; members(a)uniforum.org.nz > Subject: [nznog] Netforum 2003 (and 2004??) > > > A quick update on the the conference this year... (mark your > diaries, get your management primed that you need to attend) > > When: [8?,9?]10/11/12 July, 2003 > Where: Waipuna Lodge, Mt Wellington, Auckland > Cost: NZ$695 for Three Days, discounts for early bird > registration, lesser for less time, extensive > student discounts...) <HEAD ABOVE PARAPET> Nobody's complained yet ... </HEAD ABOVE PARAPET> - Donald Neal > The lead international speakers who have accepted are:- > (and I have fully funded travel sponsorship for...) > > Evi Nemeth (ex University of Boulder Colorado, and ISC Director) > who has indicated she would like to talk about > "ISP measurement stuff regarding dns and the slow > and infinite denial of service attack that > bugs/ features/config-errors in microsoft > software are > doing to the root servers. - Plus other measurement stuff" > > Barry Raveendran Greene (Lead author of ISP practice manual > from Cisco) talking about advanced ISP tools and > techniques in use worldwide, current practices. > > Joe Abley (local boy made good) talking about Advanced mosquito > control in Canadian summers, and "what is it really like > to work for Paul Vixie...." ( I am certain he will > provide an alternative title to his talks..) > > I'm still looking for papers and interesting topics for discussion. > My plan is to make the conference so interesting to the ISP industry > that I can get 2Day.com to stump up for a bar contribution. > (Its a test....) > > The web-site and conference brochure will be out this week, and > I'll be forwarding a URL for a double sided Colour PDF for those > with colour printers, who need glossies to sell to management. > > =============================================================== > > 2004 Conference:- > > I do not mind whether we go to Waikato, or stay in Acukland > I have no problem with changes by popular demand. > I have provisional speaker acceptances for 2004 from > DJ Bernstein (thanks Simon for the excellent talks in 2002) > Jeff Doyle (Juniper Networks) > > Thanks for reading this far, more to follow. > > =================================================================== > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not read it - please contact me immediately, destroy it, and do not copy or use any part of this communication or disclose anything about it. Thank you." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Why is PoB taking a dig at IANA?
by Andy Gardner 13 Mar '03

13 Mar '03

Why is PoB taking a dig at IANA? http://www.itu.int/itudoc/itu-t/workshop/cctld/cctld010.html -- Andrew P. Gardner Buffoons need love too.

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TelstraClear appear to have fallen off APE
by Richard Haakma 12 Mar '03

12 Mar '03

Hello. It appears to me that TelstraClear seems to have fallen off APE about 1:15 this morning and are still not there at 3:00. I can't ping the ip address 192.203.154.32 nor 192.203.154.33. Regards, RH.

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more on LOTR
by Richard Naylor 11 Mar '03

11 Mar '03

since someone just asked, last year the streams were in addition to the webcams. The webcams were averaging 500+ users all day and the streams carried a similar volume. overall we were shifting 130mbps. The video streams are NOT the webcams. They use mixers, cameras, lights etc like a tv production. The webcams are little things bolted to flimsy bits of buildings in high places. (why is it always like that?) rich

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RE: [nznog] search.msn.co.nz
by Simon Byrnand 10 Mar '03

10 Mar '03

At 21:16 10/03/03 +1100, Nathan Mercer wrote: >-----Original Message----- >From: Juha Saarinen [mailto:juha(a)saarinen.org] >Sent: Monday, 10 March 2003 11:10 p.m. >To: Nathan Mercer; Simon Byrnand; Craig Whitmore > >Nathan Mercer <nmercer(a)microsoft.com> wrote: > > Hi Guys > > > > Thanks for the info, I passed it onto the MSN people offshore. > > Do you have any more information about how this error appears - are > > your customers clicking something in their browser, or linking off > > another website or something? > > > > I can't seem to get the error here on my PC (but I'm running IE6) > >$ dig search.msn.co.nz. a >;; ANSWER SECTION: >search.msn.co.nz. 3600 IN CNAME search.msn.ca. >search.msn.ca. 3600 IN A 207.68.185.57 >search.msn.ca. 3600 IN A 207.68.176.254 > >Yeah, no idea why its in aliased to .ca The MSN admin guy who replied >to me was from China, so go figure. It sounds like search.msn.co.nz >isn't being used by MSN any longer, and they can't figure out why users >are ending up there. They can't figure it out ? The "Search" button in the latest version of Internet Explorer (and probably older versions too) takes you there when you use "Find a Web Page". It also happens if you try to search from the address bar. (EG enter something that isn't a URL) Maybe their webdesigners should keep in touch with the IE development team ? :p Perhaps the Microsoft people that are trying to test the problem aren't in an area that gets redirected to "search.msn.co.nz". I'm not sure what method it uses to determine if you're in NZ, perhaps not everyone in NZ is considered to be "in NZ" by IE, and thus doesn't get directed to the NZ version of that page... (But browsing directly to the URL as Craig first indicated should be visible anywhere I would have thought...) Regards, Simon

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