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APNIC Slashes Costs for New Members
by Skeeve Stevens 28 Feb '13

28 Feb '13

Hey everyone, APNIC has slashed the "IP Resource Allocation Fee" from AU$3500 (ex-GST) to AU$1750 (ex-GST). This means a new member can sign-up and get access to IP resources of up to a /22 of IPv4, IPv6 space and AS numbers. The cost of becoming a new member (with resources) is now: AU$2425 (ex-GST for Australians) which is: AU$675 (ex-GST) + AU$1750 (ex-GST). Please see the official announcement here: http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2013/ip-resource-application-fee-red… ...Skeeve <http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2013/ip-resource-application-fee-red…> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd <http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2013/ip-resource-application-fee-red…> <http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2013/ip-resource-application-fee-red…> <http://www.apnic.net/publications/news/2013/ip-resource-application-fee-red…> skeeve(a)eintellegonetworks.com ; www.eintellegonetworks.com Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; <http://twitter.com/networkceoau> linkedin.com/in/skeeve twitter.com/networkceoau ; blog: www.network-ceo.net The Experts Who The Experts Call Juniper - Cisco - Cloud

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New Trans-Tasman submarine cable
by Kris Price 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Oh, looky, a new cable: http://www.telecom-media.co.nz/releases_detail.asp?id=3880&page=index I'm curious about something though, maybe someone on the list can share a bit of history. Is Tasman-2 still active in some capacity? I had always assumed it was shutdown after southern cross was built, but it's still shown often on cable maps such as the one in that press release: http://twitpic.com/c4wu2k Cheers Kris

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Re: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable
by Peter Lambrechtsen 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

So wouldn't a larger population buy more data due to size and thus get a better discount? Isn't that how typical economics works. Or am I missing something? So wasn't that my main argument about population or lack thereof? ----- Reply message ----- From: "Jay Daley" <jay(a)nzrs.net.nz> To: "Peter Lambrechtsen" <Peter.Lambrechtsen(a)telecom.co.nz> Cc: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable Date: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:31 am On 20/02/2013, at 7:16 AM, Peter Lambrechtsen <Peter.Lambrechtsen(a)telecom.co.nz> wrote: > How are prices high when it costs the same to land data on SCCN NZ-US as it does AU-US and there is 3 cables going into AU? List prices are the same but the unlisted discounts are significant and they favour the stronger buyers. AU buyers are generally much stronger because they buy more bandwidth and they can shop around between cables for prices. Jay > > NZ is a small population with a low wage economy spread across a very mountainous geography that the vast majority of people only use less than 30gb of data.... > > Fix those issues and we will all have cheaper internet. > > Sent from my HTC Wildfire S on Telecom's XT mobile network. > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "Chris Hodgetts" <chris(a)archnetnz.com> > To: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable > Date: Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:15 pm > > > > Yes - more cables does equal good... > > However, given the three Telco's involved... does it still mean high > prices? > > > > On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:32:43 +0000, Christian Nielsen > <cnielsen(a)microsoft.com> wrote: > > More Cables = Good. > > > > This is a pretty good site. Still shows Tasman-2. > > http://submarinecablemap.com/ > > > > Christian > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Kris Price > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:29 PM > > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable > > > > Oh, looky, a new cable: > > > > http://www.telecom-media.co.nz/releases_detail.asp?id=3880&page=index > > > > I'm curious about something though, maybe someone on the list can share > a > > bit of history. Is Tasman-2 still active in some capacity? > > > > I had always assumed it was shutdown after southern cross was built, but > > it's still shown often on cable maps such as the one in that press > release: > > > > http://twitpic.com/c4wu2k > > > > > > Cheers > > Kris > > _______________________________________________ > > NZNOG mailing list > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > > _______________________________________________ > > NZNOG mailing list > > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog -- Jay Daley Chief Executive .nz Registry Services (New Zealand Domain Name Registry Limited) desk: +64 4 931 6977 mobile: +64 21 678840 linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/jaydaley<http://www.linkedin.com/in/jaydaley>

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Re: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable
by Peter Lambrechtsen 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

And the other important part is SCCN "could" charge more to NZ due to the monopoly. But they don't. Plus talking about 1gb plans. That is by far and above the edge cases. We have to remember this is bb for the masses. Most OECD countries have an average GB usage below 40 or so... And they have far more options in the online video content space. So NZ isn't *that* different in that respect. Plus in many of those countries have underground ducting that is reused unlike NZ which makes a massive impact on costs. Last of all much of it gets run by the government so issues with the RMA doesn't apply. Sent from my HTC Wildfire S on Telecom's XT mobile network. ----- Reply message ----- From: "Mauricio Freitas" <freitasm(a)geekzone.co.nz> To: "dean(a)deanpemberton.com" <dean(a)deanpemberton.com>, "Peter Lambrechtsen" <Peter.Lambrechtsen(a)telecom.co.nz> Cc: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable Date: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:19 am Peter was saying that SCX charges the same to NZ companies as they charge AU companies, even though one could obviously say there is a much bigger market in AU. In effect we are paying the (lower) Australian prices for the SCX data. Cheers Mauricio Freitas (@freitasm) www.geekzone.co.nz<http://www.geekzone.co.nz> www.freitasm.com<http://www.freitasm.com> www.twitter.com/freitasm<http://www.twitter.com/freitasm> -----Original Message----- From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Dean Pemberton Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 08:58 To: Peter Lambrechtsen Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Peter Lambrechtsen <Peter.Lambrechtsen(a)telecom.co.nz> wrote: > How are prices high when it costs the same to land data on SCCN NZ-US > as it does AU-US and there is 3 cables going into AU? > Sorry I don't get what you're saying here. Probably just me being dense, could you expand? > NZ is a small population with a low wage economy spread across a very > mountainous geography that the vast majority of people only use less > than 30gb of data.... Thats true, but it changes. At one point it was impossible to imagine that people would even require 1gb/month. You want the speed of capability to keep pace with the speed of demand. The problem is that capability is always slower to accelerate. > > Fix those issues and we will all have cheaper internet. I don't necessarily want cheaper. I want one which matches my expectations more. =) Dean _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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Re: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable
by Peter Lambrechtsen 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

How are prices high when it costs the same to land data on SCCN NZ-US as it does AU-US and there is 3 cables going into AU? NZ is a small population with a low wage economy spread across a very mountainous geography that the vast majority of people only use less than 30gb of data.... Fix those issues and we will all have cheaper internet. Sent from my HTC Wildfire S on Telecom's XT mobile network. ----- Reply message ----- From: "Chris Hodgetts" <chris(a)archnetnz.com> To: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable Date: Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:15 pm Yes - more cables does equal good... However, given the three Telco's involved... does it still mean high prices? On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:32:43 +0000, Christian Nielsen <cnielsen(a)microsoft.com> wrote: > More Cables = Good. > > This is a pretty good site. Still shows Tasman-2. > http://submarinecablemap.com/ > > Christian > > -----Original Message----- > From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Kris Price > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:29 PM > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable > > Oh, looky, a new cable: > > http://www.telecom-media.co.nz/releases_detail.asp?id=3880&page=index > > I'm curious about something though, maybe someone on the list can share a > bit of history. Is Tasman-2 still active in some capacity? > > I had always assumed it was shutdown after southern cross was built, but > it's still shown often on cable maps such as the one in that press release: > > http://twitpic.com/c4wu2k > > > Cheers > Kris > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog > _______________________________________________ > NZNOG mailing list > NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog _______________________________________________ NZNOG mailing list NZNOG(a)list.waikato.ac.nz http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/nznog

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APNIC EC election online voting and proxy appointment open
by Dean Pemberton 16 Feb '13

16 Feb '13

Morning all, If you're an APNIC member then it's time to exercise your voting powers. Online voting is now open for the upcoming Executive Council elections. There are four seats open, so you will get a number of votes. Here's a very cut down version of the biographies (wording taken from http://conference.apnic.net/35/elections#nominees) if you're still undecided. James Spenceley James founded Vocus, now one of the largest IP backbone providers in Australia and New Zealand. James has successfully managed Vocus into the awarded fastest growing technology company in Australia. Vocus now listed on the Australian Stock Market offers IP transit, fibre and data centre services in three markets (Australia, New Zealand, Singapore Hong Kong and USA) giving James a strong perspective on operating an Internationally diverse operation and valuable experience in technical and financial matters and corporate governance. James is also a founding director of AusNOG (Australian Network Operators Group), defining the company structure and not for profit nature of the AusNOG orgaisation. Since it's founding in 2007 AusNOG has held six annual conferences which regularly exceed 200 attendees. Guarab Raj Upadhaya Presently employed by Limelight Networks (LLNW) as Network Architect on their backbone engineering team, Gaurab supports Limelight's high speed backbone in Asia, Europe and North America. Gaurab previously worked for Packet Clearing House (PCH) as Senior Internet Analyst Gaurab is one of the 14 global Trusted Community Representatives who cryptographically sign the root of the domain name system in ICANN Root DNSSEC Key ceremonies. During his career, he has spoken and presented at INET, APRICOT, SANOG, APNIC, NZNOG, MENOG, AUSNOG, PHNOG, JANOG, AfNOG, NANOG, ICANN conferences as well as RIPE and LINX Meetings. Kenny Huang Dr. Huang's contributions have been acknowledged especially in the development of Internet technology. Dr. Kenny Huang is the co-author of RFC3743 of the IETF, the Co-Chair of JET (Joint Engineering Team, formed by JPNIC, KRNIC, CNNIC, TWNIC), Advisor of CDNC (Chinese Domain Name Consortium). Dr. Huang is working closely with government departments in developing technology policies. Wei Zhao Deputy Director of Operation Management Department,CNNIC, responsible for IP services, related external cooperation and innovation. At APNIC community, she has been involved in policy developing and other community events since she joined CNNIC. She was served as NIR SIG co-chair in 2009 to 2010, and elected as APNIC Executive Council in 2011. Lengchheang Hong Lengchheang Hong began his career at AsiaForm where he was a network administrator. He then moved on to become a Senior Customer Solutions Support Officer for ONLINE before moving up and becoming the Key Account Manager. He became the Technical Support Manager for SINET-MOOV in March 2010 and was responsible for NOC ISP and its branches' operations. ________________________________________________________________________ Proxy appointment/online voting for 2013 APNIC EC election open now ________________________________________________________________________ Online voting and proxy appointment for the APNIC Executive Council (EC) election opens today, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 for a two-week period until 09:00 (UTC +8), Wednesday, 27 February 2013. The EC members whose positions are up for re-election are: - Kenny Huang - James Spenceley - Guarab Raj Upadhaya - Wei Zhao The nominees are: - Lengchheang Hong - Kenny Huang - Guarab Raj Upadhaya - James Spenceley - Wei Zhao Online voting is available to APNIC Member Corporate Contacts and Member Contacts with voting rights via MyAPNIC. By default, all Corporate Contacts have voting rights, and they can assign voting rights to other contacts in MyAPNIC. https://myapnic.net Full details of the election and alternative voting methods are available at: http://conference.apnic.net/35/elections If you have any questions or need further assistance, please contact: helpdesk(a)apnic.net ________________________________________________________________________ APNIC Secretariat secretariat(a)apnic.net Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) Tel: +61 7 3858 3100 PO Box 3646 South Brisbane, QLD 4101 Australia Fax: +61 7 3858 3199 6 Cordelia Street, South Brisbane, QLD http://www.apnic.net ________________________________________________________________________ * Sent by email to save paper. Print only if necessary.

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Fwd: [ECS Seminars] 2013-02-20 Fred Baker - Buffer Bloat!
by Andy Linton 15 Feb '13

15 Feb '13

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ECS Seminar Notification <seminar-admin(a)ecs.vuw.ac.nz> Date: Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:30 AM Subject: [ECS Seminars] 2013-02-20 Fred Baker - Buffer Bloat! To: ecs-seminars(a)ecs.vuw.ac.nz Date: Wednesday 20th February 2013 Time: 11:00 AM - 12:30 PM Location: Cotton Club, Cotton 350 Fred Baker is scheduled to present a seminar about: Buffer Bloat! School of Engineering and Computer Science Seminar Abstract: The networking industry has looked at Quality of Service numbers times, resulting in the Integrated and Differentiated Services Architectures and numerous papers and articles on the topic. In the past few years, the topic has been popularly renamed "Buffer Bloat", and looked at again from the view of autoconfiguration and deployment. In this talk, we will look at Buffer Bloat in access networks, multistage networks such as WiFi, and data centers, each of which has unique issues and requirements. Bio: Cisco Fellow Fred Baker has been involved in data communications since 1978 and the development of the Internet since the 1980's. He participated in early development of IEEE 802.1d switching and IP routing. He has served as the Chair of the Internet Engineering Task Force, chaired several working groups, and written or edited numerous RFCs. He now chairs the IETF's IPv6 Operations Working Group, working with the operational community on IPv6 deployment issues. He also contributes to the Broadband Internet Technical Advisory Group (BITAG). At Cisco, he works with researchers within the company, and with university researchers outside, on various projects. He also advises management and technologists on technical direction. Any queries about this seminar, please email Qiang.Fu(a)ecs.vuw.ac.nz ============================================================================= This message was automatically generated by the ECS Seminars System. View seminars at http://ecs.victoria.ac.nz/Events/Seminars Sub/unsub at http://ecs.victoria.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/ecs-seminars

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ihug Ultra and Proxy Caching
by neals5 12 Feb '13

12 Feb '13

In order to defeat a patent troll, I'm looking for someone who can tell me from their own experience when ihug starting using proxy caching in conjunction with their Ultra satellite service. Unless we've all used so much caffeine our memories don't stretch back to last century? Any replies to me off list, please. I'll be happy to summarise. - Donald Neal

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Transit in Sky Tower for OOB
by Cameron Ferdinands 10 Feb '13

10 Feb '13

Hi All, I'm looking for transit in Sky Tower for OOB access, we're on Level 48, Window 16. looking for anyone on the same level or willing to help do a copper cross-connect between floors Thanks,

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Traceroute question
by Andy Linton 09 Feb '13

09 Feb '13

What do you see if you: $ traceroute 216.81.59.173 with maxhops > 30?

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