Hi Noggers,
We are looking for some internet connectivity into a new support centre in the Auckland CBD.
There is an existing fibre box and a bunch of DSL style ports.
Needs to connect with our DC networks in Airedale Street and Rosedale. International connectivity a must.
Please contact me off list.
Many thanks,
Darren.
Oh, looky, a new cable:
http://www.telecom-media.co.nz/releases_detail.asp?id=3880&page=index
I'm curious about something though, maybe someone on the list can share
a bit of history. Is Tasman-2 still active in some capacity?
I had always assumed it was shutdown after southern cross was built, but
it's still shown often on cable maps such as the one in that press release:
http://twitpic.com/c4wu2k
Cheers
Kris
So wouldn't a larger population buy more data due to size and thus get a better discount? Isn't that how typical economics works. Or am I missing something?
So wasn't that my main argument about population or lack thereof?
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From: "Jay Daley" <jay(a)nzrs.net.nz>
To: "Peter Lambrechtsen" <Peter.Lambrechtsen(a)telecom.co.nz>
Cc: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>
Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable
Date: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:31 am
On 20/02/2013, at 7:16 AM, Peter Lambrechtsen <Peter.Lambrechtsen(a)telecom.co.nz> wrote:
> How are prices high when it costs the same to land data on SCCN NZ-US as it does AU-US and there is 3 cables going into AU?
List prices are the same but the unlisted discounts are significant and they favour the stronger buyers. AU buyers are generally much stronger because they buy more bandwidth and they can shop around between cables for prices.
Jay
>
> NZ is a small population with a low wage economy spread across a very mountainous geography that the vast majority of people only use less than 30gb of data....
>
> Fix those issues and we will all have cheaper internet.
>
> Sent from my HTC Wildfire S on Telecom's XT mobile network.
>
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> From: "Chris Hodgetts" <chris(a)archnetnz.com>
> To: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>
> Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable
> Date: Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:15 pm
>
>
>
> Yes - more cables does equal good...
>
> However, given the three Telco's involved... does it still mean high
> prices?
>
>
>
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:32:43 +0000, Christian Nielsen
> <cnielsen(a)microsoft.com> wrote:
> > More Cables = Good.
> >
> > This is a pretty good site. Still shows Tasman-2.
> > http://submarinecablemap.com/
> >
> > Christian
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
> > [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Kris Price
> > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:29 PM
> > To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
> > Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable
> >
> > Oh, looky, a new cable:
> >
> > http://www.telecom-media.co.nz/releases_detail.asp?id=3880&page=index
> >
> > I'm curious about something though, maybe someone on the list can share
> a
> > bit of history. Is Tasman-2 still active in some capacity?
> >
> > I had always assumed it was shutdown after southern cross was built, but
> > it's still shown often on cable maps such as the one in that press
> release:
> >
> > http://twitpic.com/c4wu2k
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > Kris
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And the other important part is SCCN "could" charge more to NZ due to the monopoly. But they don't.
Plus talking about 1gb plans. That is by far and above the edge cases.
We have to remember this is bb for the masses.
Most OECD countries have an average GB usage below 40 or so... And they have far more options in the online video content space.
So NZ isn't *that* different in that respect. Plus in many of those countries have underground ducting that is reused unlike NZ which makes a massive impact on costs.
Last of all much of it gets run by the government so issues with the RMA doesn't apply.
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From: "Mauricio Freitas" <freitasm(a)geekzone.co.nz>
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Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable
Date: Wed, Feb 20, 2013 9:19 am
Peter was saying that SCX charges the same to NZ companies as they charge AU companies, even though one could obviously say there is a much bigger market in AU.
In effect we are paying the (lower) Australian prices for the SCX data.
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From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Dean Pemberton
Sent: Wednesday, 20 February 2013 08:58
To: Peter Lambrechtsen
Cc: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
Subject: Re: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:16 AM, Peter Lambrechtsen <Peter.Lambrechtsen(a)telecom.co.nz> wrote:
> How are prices high when it costs the same to land data on SCCN NZ-US
> as it does AU-US and there is 3 cables going into AU?
>
Sorry I don't get what you're saying here. Probably just me being dense, could you expand?
> NZ is a small population with a low wage economy spread across a very
> mountainous geography that the vast majority of people only use less
> than 30gb of data....
Thats true, but it changes.
At one point it was impossible to imagine that people would even require 1gb/month.
You want the speed of capability to keep pace with the speed of demand.
The problem is that capability is always slower to accelerate.
>
> Fix those issues and we will all have cheaper internet.
I don't necessarily want cheaper. I want one which matches my expectations more. =)
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How are prices high when it costs the same to land data on SCCN NZ-US as it does AU-US and there is 3 cables going into AU?
NZ is a small population with a low wage economy spread across a very mountainous geography that the vast majority of people only use less than 30gb of data....
Fix those issues and we will all have cheaper internet.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S on Telecom's XT mobile network.
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From: "Chris Hodgetts" <chris(a)archnetnz.com>
To: "nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz" <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>
Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable
Date: Tue, Feb 19, 2013 11:15 pm
Yes - more cables does equal good...
However, given the three Telco's involved... does it still mean high
prices?
On Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:32:43 +0000, Christian Nielsen
<cnielsen(a)microsoft.com> wrote:
> More Cables = Good.
>
> This is a pretty good site. Still shows Tasman-2.
> http://submarinecablemap.com/
>
> Christian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
> [mailto:nznog-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz] On Behalf Of Kris Price
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 4:29 PM
> To: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz
> Subject: [nznog] New Trans-Tasman submarine cable
>
> Oh, looky, a new cable:
>
> http://www.telecom-media.co.nz/releases_detail.asp?id=3880&page=index
>
> I'm curious about something though, maybe someone on the list can share
a
> bit of history. Is Tasman-2 still active in some capacity?
>
> I had always assumed it was shutdown after southern cross was built, but
> it's still shown often on cable maps such as the one in that press
release:
>
> http://twitpic.com/c4wu2k
>
>
> Cheers
> Kris
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In order to defeat a patent troll, I'm looking for someone who can tell me from their own experience when ihug starting using proxy caching in conjunction with their Ultra satellite service.
Unless we've all used so much caffeine our memories don't stretch back to last century?
Any replies to me off list, please. I'll be happy to summarise.
- Donald Neal
Hi All,
I'm looking for transit in Sky Tower for OOB access, we're on Level 48,
Window 16. looking for anyone on the same level or willing to help do a
copper cross-connect between floors
Thanks,
