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xtra email issues - can a sysadmin pls contact me off list, thanks. DM.
by Darren Moss 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

Hi, Our customers are experiencing email delivery issues with xtra again. Can a Sysadmin at xtra pls contact me off-list. Thanks. Regards, Darren Moss General Manager [p] 0800 888 285 [f] 887 0273 [m] 021 841 541 [e] Darren.Moss(a)webhostNZ.co.nz [w] www.webhostNZ.co.nz New Zealand Webhosting Network Limited Postal: PO Box 39573 Howick, Auckland 2045

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New Zealand Network Operators' Group
by Donald Neal 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. 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2012 NZNOG "Challenges"
by Jonathan Brewer 31 Jan '11

31 Jan '11

There's nothing like a little competition to keep folks on their toes, so I propose we have a challenge or two during the workshop lead-up to 2012 NZNOG. In one-day sessions, teams design (virtually - paper, white board, etc., with results to panel in PDF format) for the following: 1. Your POP has been blown up. With only what you can grab off the shelf from Dick Smith / Atech / Jaycar, etc., design a carrier network to handle Ethernet delivered L2TP traffic from 100,000 ADSL subscribers, 50,000 gPON subscribers, and 20,000 SIP based VoIP customers. You have a 3g connection to the Internet to download whatever software you need and a $20k limit on your credit card. 2. Your government has "turned off" the Internet - i.e. blocked access to Southern Cross. Find alternative solutions (i.e. satellite, troposcatter, packets over ham radio, whatever) to keep the tubes going. Decide what kind of traffic is going to get through and what isn't. Assume you have comrades on the other side to help you route and filter as necessary. You have a 64kbps Inmarsat connection with which to download any software you don't have on hand. You can use any form of transit that isn't SXC. These challenges are provoked by the folks who think there's some way to turn off "The Internet" in New Zealand - a position with which I disagree. I'd appreciate any thoughts on the contests above, and of course any further development of the concept. Cheers, -JB -- --------------------------- Telco2 Limited +64 4 913 8123 +64 27 502 8230 jon.brewer(a)telco2.co.nz www.telco2.co.nz ---------------------------

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Planned IN-ADDR.ARPA Nameserver Change
by Joe Abley 30 Jan '11

30 Jan '11

PLANNED IN-ADDR.ARPA NAMESERVER CHANGE This is a courtesy notification of an upcoming change to the nameserver set for the IN-ADDR.ARPA zone. There is no expected impact on the functional operation of the DNS due to this change. There are no actions required by DNS server operators or end users. For more information about this work, please see <http://in-addr-transition.icann.org/>. DETAIL The IN-ADDR.ARPA zone is used to provide reverse mapping (number to name) for IPv4. The servers which currently provide authoritative DNS service for the IN-ADDR.ARPA zone are as follows: A.ROOT-SERVERS.NET B.ROOT-SERVERS.NET C.ROOT-SERVERS.NET D.ROOT-SERVERS.NET E.ROOT-SERVERS.NET F.ROOT-SERVERS.NET G.ROOT-SERVERS.NET H.ROOT-SERVERS.NET I.ROOT-SERVERS.NET K.ROOT-SERVERS.NET L.ROOT-SERVERS.NET M.ROOT-SERVERS.NET On Wednesday 2010-02-16 processing will begin to change the nameserver set to the following, as described in RFC 5855: A.IN-ADDR-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by ARIN) B.IN-ADDR-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by ICANN) C.IN-ADDR-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by AfriNIC) D.IN-ADDR-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by LACNIC) E.IN-ADDR-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by APNIC) F.IN-ADDR-SERVERS.ARPA (operated by RIPE NCC) The usual IANA process for a change in the ARPA zone involves a series of technical checks and the gathering of various authorisations, and may take several days to complete. Following this, the IN-ADDR.ARPA zone will be dropped from root servers in two groups: 1. Week of 2011-02-21 -- 2011-02-25 B, C, E, G, I, M 2. Week of 2011-02-28 -- 2011-03-11 A, D, F, H, K, L Individual root server operators will choose a time for the maintenance within their respective window and follow their usual procedures to carry out the change. Courtesy notification will be sent to this list once this change has been fully implemented. Regards, Joe Abley Director DNS Operations ICANN

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Prop 94
by Brian E Carpenter 30 Jan '11

30 Jan '11

The APNIC policy proposal 94 allows an operator to put in for new IPv4 space without having to renumber, if they can show that they've used 80% of the space already obtained from their upstream. http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-094 That seems bad in two ways 1. It allows 19.99% of IPv4 space to be hoarded. 2. It probably encourages disaggregation, compared with renumbering into this new block. Brian

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TelstraClear off-list security/NOC contact please
by Lloyd Parkes 30 Jan '11

30 Jan '11

Hi, Could someone from TelstraClear's NOC or security team please contact me off-list. Cheers, Lloyd This email and any attachment may contain confidential information. If you have received this email or any attachment in error, please delete the email / attachment, and notify the sender. Please do not copy, disclose or use the email, any attachment, or any information contained in them. Consider the environment before deciding to print: avoid printing if you can, or consider printing double-sided.

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Worldnet
by Andrew Hooper 28 Jan '11

28 Jan '11

Anyone know who to contact at WorldNet regarding security and fraud matters? If they can fire me the contact details off list I would appreciate it. Regards Andrew Hooper

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Facebook - the next phase
by Skeeve Stevens 28 Jan '11

28 Jan '11

Hey all, Just an interesting new phase in Facebook with the new message system. They've enhanced the message systems with a new mashup view, but also have turned on email for Facebook accounts. A while ago they announced Facebook urls: facebook.com/eintellego And in the last couple of days, when you turn on your new messaging system, they issue an email address related to your short-link above. So as of now I have the eintellego(a)facebook.com<mailto:eintellego(a)facebook.com> address which can have email sent to it and replied. Why is this important? Well, this would be the first very direct shot across the bow at Google and will create, almost instantly a competitor to Gmail with a potential of 500 million users. That is quite interesting operationally to nznog members from a consideration perspective. What we're about to see is a domain (facebook.com) with almost no users, turn into one of the biggest senders and receivers of emails world wide. Immediate things that come to mind are the possible abuses of applications sending email on your behalf. Worthy of discussion I think. Btw… I am not saying this is good or bad… Just very interesting. ...Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve(a)eintellego.net<mailto:skeeve(a)eintellego.net> / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- eintellego - The Experts that the Experts call - Juniper - HP Networking - Cisco - Brocade - Arista - Allied Telesis

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Curry - Dawatt - 7:30 tonight
by Joel Wiramu Pauling 27 Jan '11

27 Jan '11

Apologies for the slightly off topic post - no conference mailing list transpired so - for those of you who are after a meal tonight, a few drinks and some conversations - myself my partner and maybe a few other NOG people will be at Daawat for a Curry tonight at 7:30. 88 Manners Mall, Wellington, New Zealand If critical mass of people ensues then TNC rules will apply, for those not familiar it's a order what you like and split the bill affair. http://wellington.thursdaynightcurry.com has more background; TNC and NZNog have traditional 'synergies' dating back over some years and Daawat can handle a crowd on short notice. Hope everyone had a great NOG and thanks muchly to the organizing peeps. -JoelW

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