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Re: [nznog] NZNOG Digest, Vol 80, Issue 9
by Anton Smith 10 Aug '09

10 Aug '09

Hi Dean, While I agree with the general notion that people should go to the ISP directly first, in the Telstra case with their transparent proxy I think it is okay posting here. Mainly because most people on this list know it is there, while most people on the ISPs desk probably don't. Telstra could make this a bit better for themselves by being more verbose about the proxies presence, rather than getting various levels of brokenness complaints. In the beginning when diagnosing the problem, an engineer might not even know that the problem lies with Telstra, and we have seen people posting http headers and so on in the past wondering what was going on. I just think that this kind of thing is a natural side effect of an ill publicised (and some would argue, annoying) network feature, and if Telstra are not proactive about letting people know they have it and the problems that may arise, then they deserve the occasional mail list post. Regards, Anton Disclaimer: I have run into their proxy before due to asymmetric routing + transparent proxy unhappiness (resulted in what looked like a black hole). On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 2:00 AM, <nznog-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> wrote: > From: Dean Pemberton <nznog(a)deanpemberton.com> > Subject: Re: [nznog] Telstraclear international proxy? > To: nznog <nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <4A7F6257.9080104(a)deanpemberton.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > I'd like to take this opportunity to remind people that the appropriate > way to handle situations like this is to log a support call with the > ISPs helpdesk before posting support questions to this list. > > If you believe that it is a problem which effects the NZ Operator > community as a whole and you have exhausted your options (including > escalations) with the ISP concerned then it is maybe appropriate to post. > > This is to eliminate the situation where an ISP finds its name/helpdesk > practices used in vain throughout a mailing list without being given a > chance to put the matter right in private first. > > > Thanks > Dean

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Re: [nznog] Telstraclear international proxy?
by Philip D'Ath 09 Aug '09

09 Aug '09

I can see that becoming urban slang. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Phillips Sent: Mon 10/08/2009 15:15 To: nznog Subject: Re: [nznog] Telstraclear international proxy? Sorry for the completely pointless empty post. My cat did it ! -- Steve. Steve Phillips wrote: > Gordon Smith wrote: >> The bulk of the caching issues service providers are asked to deal >> with come about because people don't know how to configure web servers. >> >> Meta tags and expires are actually useful, but it seems that there are >> always a few people that don't use them, even though their content is >> dynamic.

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Re: [nznog] Microsoft xbox spam ?
by Ian Batterbee 09 Aug '09

09 Aug '09

Just to head off further replies on this thread - I believe the problem was that I was forced to register with microsoft's games for windows (or some such name) when I installed GTA4 many months ago, and it seems that Microsoft have emailed everyone on there, rather than just xbox platform owners. So although unwanted, it was probably legit and just an oversight on their part. Ian Batterbee wrote: > >> Has anyone else received spam from Microsoft about an XBox service update >> ? >> >>

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Google Wave
by James Jones 09 Aug '09

09 Aug '09

I am just curious if anyone else on NZNOG is play with Wave Federation Server? James Jones Managing Director Freedom Networks +64 6 3678300 +1 413 771 1402 james(a)freedomnet.co.nz

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Microsoft xbox spam ?
by Ian Batterbee 07 Aug '09

07 Aug '09

Has anyone else received spam from Microsoft about an XBox service update ? The message claims that I received it as part of my XBox Live subscription, but since I don't have such a subscription, and don't even own an xbox, I think they're telling porkies.

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APNIC training August 2009
by Elly Tawhai 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

________________________________________________________________________ APNIC training and hostmaster consultations in Wellington and Auckland, New Zealand, 3-4/5-6 August 2009 ________________________________________________________________________ Dear All, APNIC is pleased to invite you to attend the following training courses and hostmaster consultation sessions in New Zealand: Course: IRM (Internet Resource Management) and APNIC update Date: 3 August 2009 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Venue: InternetNZ Level 10 Exchange Place 5 - 7 Willeston Street Course: IRM (Internet Resource Management) Date: 5 August 2009 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Venue: CallPlus Level 4, Qantas House 191 Queen Street Event: Hostmaster individual consultations Date: 4 August 2009 Location: Wellington, New Zealand Venue: InternetNZ Level 10 Exchange Place 5 - 7 Willeston Street Event: Hostmaster individual consultations Date: 6 August 2009 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Venue: CallPlus Level 4, Qantas House 191 Queen Street Fees: Fees are for training only. There is no charge for the consultation sessions Pay onsite (cash only) Pay online (credit card) ----------------------- ------------------------ APNIC members: NZD 100 AUD 65 Others: NZD 130 AUD 85 (The online fee is charged in Australian dollars and includes a 20% discount) Notes: ------ - The Hostmaster consultations and training sessions are two distinct events with separate registration processes. - Training courses run from 09:00 to 17:00. - Hostmaster consultations fun from 09:30 to 13:00. - Lunch, refreshments, and training materials are provided. - Seats are limited and the registration is on a 'first come-first served' basis with priority given to APNIC members. To register for the Wellington training, please go to: http://www.apnic.net/events/whats-on/training-events/calendar/events/2009/n… To register for the Auckland training, please go to: http://www.apnic.net/events/whats-on/training-events/calendar/events/2009/n… For course information please go to: http://www.apnic.net/services/services-apnic-provides/training/courses/core… If you have problems registering please contact stella(a)apnic.net Hostmaster consultations ------------------------ APNIC is offering free, individual Hostmaster consultation sessions. At these sessions you can ask about: - How to request IPv4, IPv6, and AS numbers from APNIC - How APNIC hostmasters will evaluate your resource request - Current policies for IP and AS number management in the APNIC region - How to maintain and update your resource registration record in the APNIC Whois Database - Any individual issues you might have To register for the Hostmaster consultations, please email: elly(a)apnic.net Best regards, APNIC training team ________________________________________________________________________ APNIC Training training(a)apnic.net Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) Tel: +61 7 3858 3100 PO Box 2131 Milton, QLD 4064 Australia Fax: +61 7 3858 3199 Level 1, 33 Park Road, Milton, QLD http://www.apnic.net ________________________________________________________________________

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FW: Content again - legality question
by Skeeve Stevens 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

Again, any thoughts on the NZ situation (legally) regarding this? -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- NOC, NOC, who's there? From: ausnog-bounces(a)lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces(a)lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 12:59 AM To: ausnog(a)ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] Content again - legality question Hey all, Content question again - but this time a legal question. For any content that is 'freely available on the web' - what is the legality of acquiring this content and delivering it locally? For example.. many TV stations are uploading full episodes onto their websites after the show has aired. YouTube would be another example. I am only talking about free content - which is not paid for, but freely downloadable from websites. I guess I am talking about a 'pre-caching' kind of situation. Also, does anyone know at what point music becomes legally free to use in Australia?... like books after 50years after the authors death (in the US it is 20). ...Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- NOC, NOC, who's there? Disclaimer: Limits of Liability and Disclaimer: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. eintellego Pty Ltd and each legal entity in the Tefilah Pty Ltd group of companies reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. Any reference to costs, fee quotations, contractual transactions and variations to contract terms is subject to separate confirmation in writing signed by an authorised representative of eintellego. Whilst all efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, we cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or compatible with your systems and do not accept any liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced.

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FW: Content - Music, Movies, TV
by Skeeve Stevens 06 Aug '09

06 Aug '09

Hey all, Any comments on the NZ situation regarding this? -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- NOC, NOC, who's there? From: ausnog-bounces(a)lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces(a)lists.ausnog.net] On Behalf Of Skeeve Stevens Sent: Friday, 7 August 2009 12:55 AM To: ausnog(a)ausnog.net Subject: [AusNOG] Content - Music, Movies, TV Hey all, I have multiple clients who are wanting to sell content to their customers. There are multiple scenarios: - ISP's to their users - Hotspots in accommodation locations wanting to sell it to visitors - similar to in-room entertainment in big hotels - Providers of in building connectivity who want to delivery triple-play to their residents Does anyone know of any aggregators of this kind of content with the studios and so on? ...Skeeve -- Skeeve Stevens, CEO/Technical Director eintellego Pty Ltd - The Networking Specialists skeeve(a)eintellego.net / www.eintellego.net Phone: 1300 753 383, Fax: (+612) 8572 9954 Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 / skype://skeeve www.linkedin.com/in/skeeve ; facebook.com/eintellego -- NOC, NOC, who's there? Disclaimer: Limits of Liability and Disclaimer: This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain sensitive and private proprietary or legally privileged information. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. eintellego Pty Ltd and each legal entity in the Tefilah Pty Ltd group of companies reserve the right to monitor all e-mail communications through its networks. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the message states otherwise and the sender is authorised to state them to be the views of any such entity. Any reference to costs, fee quotations, contractual transactions and variations to contract terms is subject to separate confirmation in writing signed by an authorised representative of eintellego. Whilst all efforts are made to safeguard inbound and outbound e-mails, we cannot guarantee that attachments are virus-free or compatible with your systems and do not accept any liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced.

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 05 Aug '09

05 Aug '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 130.123.0.0/16^16-29, 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 112.109.64.0/20^20-29, 119.47.112.0/20^20-29, 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.86.96.0/20^20-29, 202.160.48.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 112.109.80.0/21^21-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 110.232.144.0/22^22-29, 113.197.64.0/22^22-29, 124.248.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.88.99.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 202.8.13.0/24^24-29, 202.12.0.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.93.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.205.0/24^24-29, 202.46.188.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.99.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 202.55.107.0/24^24-29, 202.89.57.0/24^24-29, 203.89.178.0/24^24-29, 203.89.181.0/24^24-29, 203.89.187.0/24^24-29, 202.89.43.0/25^25-29, 123.100.117.192/27^27-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: peering(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090727 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9439:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9439 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 130.123.0.0/16^16-29, 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 112.109.64.0/20^20-29, 119.47.112.0/20^20-29, 124.248.128.0/20^20-29, 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.86.96.0/20^20-29, 202.160.48.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 112.109.80.0/21^21-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 110.232.144.0/22^22-29, 113.197.64.0/22^22-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.88.99.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 202.8.13.0/24^24-29, 202.12.0.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.93.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.205.0/24^24-29, 202.46.188.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.99.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 202.55.107.0/24^24-29, 202.89.57.0/24^24-29, 203.89.178.0/24^24-29, 203.89.181.0/24^24-29, 203.89.187.0/24^24-29, 202.89.43.0/25^25-29, 123.100.117.192/27^27-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: peering(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090806 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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NZRR Route Registry Update
by NZRR Database Notifications 05 Aug '09

05 Aug '09

Dear Colleague, This is to notify you that one or more objects in which you are designated for notification have been modified in the NZRR routing registry database. These objects are used to configure the various NZIX route servers (http://nzix.net/) so you can expect the relevant servers to be reloaded in the near future. The reloading of the servers is staggered over a period of time so that if you are peering with both servers at an exchange, you can maintain at least one BGP session at all times and consequently a full set of routes. Diagnostic output: ------------------------------------------------------------ --- PREVIOUS OBJECT: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 130.123.0.0/16^16-29, 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 112.109.64.0/20^20-29, 119.47.112.0/20^20-29, 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.86.96.0/20^20-29, 202.160.48.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 112.109.80.0/21^21-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 110.232.144.0/22^22-29, 113.197.64.0/22^22-29, 124.248.140.0/22^22-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 124.248.128.0/24^24-29, 124.248.132.0/24^24-29, 124.248.136.0/24^24-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.88.99.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 202.8.13.0/24^24-29, 202.12.0.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.93.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.205.0/24^24-29, 202.46.188.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.99.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 202.55.107.0/24^24-29, 202.89.57.0/24^24-29, 203.89.178.0/24^24-29, 203.89.181.0/24^24-29, 203.89.187.0/24^24-29, 202.89.43.0/25^25-29, 123.100.117.192/27^27-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: peering(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090727 source: NZRR REPLACED BY: route-set: AS9560:RS-ROUTES:AS9503 descr: advertised to AS9560 by FX Networks - AS9503 members: 130.123.0.0/16^16-29, 131.203.0.0/16^16-29, 161.29.0.0/16^16-29, 161.65.0.0/16^16-29, 166.65.0.0/16^16-29, 119.15.0.0/19^19-29, 202.14.32.0/19^19-29, 112.109.64.0/20^20-29, 119.47.112.0/20^20-29, 124.248.128.0/20^20-29, 202.46.160.0/20^20-29, 202.53.176.0/20^20-29, 202.86.96.0/20^20-29, 202.160.48.0/20^20-29, 202.191.32.0/20^20-29, 210.48.160.0/20^20-29, 112.109.80.0/21^21-29, 120.89.80.0/21^21-29, 192.173.16.0/21^21-29, 202.46.176.0/21^21-29, 202.49.0.0/21^21-29, 202.78.240.0/21^21-29, 202.126.80.0/21^21-29, 202.160.112.0/21^21-29, 203.190.208.0/21^21-29, 110.232.144.0/22^22-29, 113.197.64.0/22^22-29, 202.37.48.0/22^22-29, 202.89.4.0/22^22-29, 203.84.134.0/23^23-29, 192.88.85.0/24^24-29, 192.88.99.0/24^24-29, 192.122.171.0/24^24-29, 192.133.31.0/24^24-29, 192.195.219.0/24^24-29, 202.8.13.0/24^24-29, 202.12.0.0/24^24-29, 202.12.91.0/24^24-29, 202.20.97.0/24^24-29, 202.27.83.0/24^24-29, 202.36.33.0/24^24-29, 202.36.75.0/24^24-29, 202.36.119.0/24^24-29, 202.36.154.0/24^24-29, 202.36.162.0/24^24-29, 202.36.218.0/24^24-29, 202.37.93.0/24^24-29, 202.37.168.0/24^24-29, 202.37.205.0/24^24-29, 202.46.188.0/24^24-29, 202.46.190.0/24^24-29, 202.49.106.0/24^24-29, 202.49.144.0/24^24-29, 202.50.247.0/24^24-29, 202.55.99.0/24^24-29, 202.55.105.0/24^24-29, 202.55.107.0/24^24-29, 202.89.57.0/24^24-29, 203.89.178.0/24^24-29, 203.89.181.0/24^24-29, 203.89.187.0/24^24-29, 202.89.43.0/25^25-29, 123.100.117.192/27^27-29 admin-c: RPA1-NZRR tech-c: RPA1-NZRR notify: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net notify: nznog(a)list.waikato.ac.nz notify: peering(a)fx.net.nz mnt-by: MAINT-NZRR-NZ changed: rpsl-admin(a)nzix.net 20090806 source: NZRR ------------------------------------------------------------

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